well, to get the most out of your experience, I would say 300$+50$live while PS3 would be 400$+(whatever component cables/hdmi cables cost)+40$bluetooth headset.

Can some one tell me if you get a remote control with the PS3? or is that an add-on?

I wouldnt want to use the ps3 controller to view all the special bluray features

That's where we differ.. i prefere a large sum of quality games for my system :p

comon man ! you practically asked for it the way your sentence was put together XD

Anyways... op.. doesn't really seem like you were trying to honestly ask a question but rather tell people your opinion. While i agree with you that the ps3 is of better value you can't really expect everyone else to do so.. especially not when you "build" the op like that.

@ceaser I'm guessing you don't have a 360 since you didn't add that 360 Pro comes with a headset and a PS3 don't so why don't you add those costs in? Also component cables, 360s come with those, I'm not sure if things have changed but last I remember is that Sony does not package component cables with their PS3.

Or instead of buying a HD-DVD player a 360 owner can just buy a HDMI cable for around 25-40 dollars online and watch upscaled DVDs (why buy HD-DVD when it's a dead format that's not the best experience to me) in 1080p or i.

So let's get this right, add headset price to the PS3, add hdmi cables to PS3. Add average amount of Blu-Ray movies a PS3 owner buys a year, add price of HDMI cable to 360 and average amount of DVDs people buy a year. Oh and XBL is not 50 dollars a year, you can easily score 13 months for 40. Also take away the wireless adapter for the 360, you said MOST out of your experience. Last I remember ethernet still PWNS wireless when it comes to gaming. Here I'll do the math for you.

Xbox Pro $300, 13 months of live $40, HDMI cable we'll say $30, I'll say the average amount of movies a person buys per year is 7 at $20 each. (I buy around 20, so I believe I'm giving the PS3 an advantage here) making it $510. Not to mention if you buy less than 7 DVD titles a year, there's no point to HDMI imo.

PS3 $400, headset I'll say around $25 (I used froogle and looked for the cheapest headset, I found 7-15 dollar headsets but they are either used or refurbished, personally I would never put a headset on of someone I didn't know.) HDMI cable $30, 7 Blu Ray titles at 30 dollars making the total price $665.

Now Sales tax, sales tax in California is %8.25, let's take tax of somewhere else because I feel that's not fair (California has highest sales tax in US). Let's say you live in a state with %4 percent sales tax. If you buy all that HDMI and headset stuff online there'd be no tax so add $12 to cost of Xbox and $16 to price of PS3.

If however you buy all your stuff at stores than add $26.6 to PS3 total and $20.4 to the Xbox. Now If I wanted to be more accurate I could also add up energy bills, which the 360 uses less of.

I don't hate PS3 or dislike it, but the fact is it's more expensive, if you had posted this a month ago before price cuts I might've agreed with you.

My eyebrows were just singed off from that wicked burn.

What the fuck is the drug today?

EURO, Scandinavia: Xbox 360 PRO - 201,31 EURO (Cheapest)
NA : XBOX 360 ARCADE - 200 $

And Xbox live > PSN.

Big time!

 Don't be the poster child of hypocrisy.  And you don't win arguments by insulting other people.  It makes you look ignorant and causes you to lose all respect when you do

Gnizmo, you know the best experience for the PS3 has to have a better hard drive than just 500gb. We are talking about THE BEST EXPERIENCE! Let's go 1TB!