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goddog said:
Katilian said:
Yakuzaice said:
mowe said:
This may have been the case for a long time, but there's not denying that $120 (plus tax) is a LOT of money to be paying for two games. That's why piracy is so big, paying hundreds of dollars for video games is ridiculous, I don't care how good they are.

That's also why I only own two games; I just can't afford anymore. Sure I can get a job, which I will, but games are just gonna get more extravagant and more expensive.

There's nothing we can do about it but it's still a pain in the ass.

Why not just get a PS2 and have a huge selection of cheap games?

If you still want current gen, why not wait a few months after release and pick up the game half price anyway.

 

unless its a very good game, and the price is only a few bucks cheaper even after a year or two.... gruble... though i dont really buy used games but it does bother me to pay alomst 60 for a game thats a year old

 

Perhaps its because our games retail at 2x the cost of US prices, but here in Australia, its pretty common for games to go on sale within 12 months of release. After 2 years, you can definitely pick them up cheap, there are already plenty of 360 games available for 1/4 of the original cost if you know where to shop.

 



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Katilian said:
goddog said:
Katilian said:
Yakuzaice said:
mowe said:
This may have been the case for a long time, but there's not denying that $120 (plus tax) is a LOT of money to be paying for two games. That's why piracy is so big, paying hundreds of dollars for video games is ridiculous, I don't care how good they are.

That's also why I only own two games; I just can't afford anymore. Sure I can get a job, which I will, but games are just gonna get more extravagant and more expensive.

There's nothing we can do about it but it's still a pain in the ass.

Why not just get a PS2 and have a huge selection of cheap games?

If you still want current gen, why not wait a few months after release and pick up the game half price anyway.

 

unless its a very good game, and the price is only a few bucks cheaper even after a year or two.... gruble... though i dont really buy used games but it does bother me to pay alomst 60 for a game thats a year old

 

Perhaps its because our games retail at 2x the cost of US prices, but here in Australia, its pretty common for games to go on sale within 12 months of release. After 2 years, you can definitely pick them up cheap, there are already plenty of 360 games available for 1/4 of the original cost if you know where to shop.

 

 

i can understand that, here 3 years after release halo 2 was still 39.99 after relesasing at 49.99.... its just one of those things, cod4 is still full price, ad is oblivion goty ed



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Because a good movie can be watched a few times, 10 hours of enjoyment for $20-30 Au
A good game can be played for well over 100 hours (quick, everyone check your brawl records :P) so the price should be $200-300 Au

So yeah, for what you actually get, games are quite cheap



Prices of games have actually gone up, but that's probably inflation.
Where I live, you get games as cheap as the equivalent of 35 US or as expensive as the equivalent of 60. I don't consider that expensive.



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Katilian said:
Yakuzaice said:
mowe said:
This may have been the case for a long time, but there's not denying that $120 (plus tax) is a LOT of money to be paying for two games. That's why piracy is so big, paying hundreds of dollars for video games is ridiculous, I don't care how good they are.

That's also why I only own two games; I just can't afford anymore. Sure I can get a job, which I will, but games are just gonna get more extravagant and more expensive.

There's nothing we can do about it but it's still a pain in the ass.

Why not just get a PS2 and have a huge selection of cheap games?

If you still want current gen, why not wait a few months after release and pick up the game half price anyway.

 

You could still buy several great PS2 games for the same price as a half price wii game.  Not to mention the $100+ initial savings on the system.  Now mowe's tastes are obviously different.  But if I was given the choice between a Wii and 2 games or a PS2 and probably more than 20 games, I would easily choose the PS2.  Maybe it is just me, but if you can only afford a couple games, it isn't worth it to buy current gen stuff.

 



There are a few reasons for it, IMO:

1. Developer costs.
Even though the install bases of gaming systems are getting larger with each generation, the costs of making games is vastly outstripping the increase in game sales. Look at the most popular console games in history - They've increased a decent bit in sales by units and gross revenue since the SNES days. A good chart would be the UK/Chart Track chart that shows that video game revenue has doubled since the PS2/XB era in the United Kingdom. Problem is, costs to develop a game have gone up more than 2x, and there are more games contributing to said revenue base. So supply of games + cost of making a game is outstripping the demand on the market, leading to prices that are high.

Having said that, if you look at a game that has a very cheap budget - something you'd see from the mid 90's (such as a Braid, Castle Crashers, Final Fantasy: My Life as a King) or Mega Man 9.........Guess what? They're very cheap. Mega Man 9 in 1993 would of cost $50 at retail stores. It's $10 on XBLA/PSN/WW which shows you that the actual cost of games has decreased massively if your going to compare apples to apples (and your really not when comparing content of a top-tier 1992 title and 2008 title).

2. Royalty Fees/Cost of Goods Sold
As the market has increased in size and scope, so has the distribution model of getting games out. More dollars are spent on marketing than ever before - What used to get sales as a "cult classic" by good word of mouth doesn't cut it anymore. Dead Rising, from my memory had a $10 million dollar or more budget on marketing alone. Guess what? That factors in to what the game "costs" to make, because they are spending what they need to make a profit. Such things get asorbed into the overall expense of bringing a title to the market. Likewise, in the distribution model you have more publisher/distribution fees because there are more places that sell products.

3. Used Games.
Did you notice back in the 90's that used games were a rarity? As the market grows, so does the proliferation of used copies. And unfortunately, what used to be a longtail in terms of a game's life has consistently reduced itself year over year, like the movie industry. Used games, as great as they are as a value, have increased their proliferation thanks to Game Stop, to a point that they can choke off poor-reviewed title sales, causing a developer to eat larger losses than expected.


So how will prices go down? Digital distribution. They eliminate problem #2 by giving developers a higher profit margin, and cutting out more of the fees taken by 20 different hands. Likewise, DD titles have infinite shelf life, so marketing costs are lower since WOM is far more critical. Also, used copy issues are negated since they currently don't exist.

And having said that, the Digital Distribution model has proved that it can provide much better games at much cheaper prices. You only need to look at Mega Man 9, Siren, Castle Crashers, Braid, Sins of a Solar Empire, Kings Bounty: The Legend and other great DD titles to know and understand that DD provides a much cheaper deal for the consumer: I've bought Sins and King's Bounty for $40 each brand new. A user can go out and buy Braid or Castle Crashers for $15, and Siren (a PS3 DD title) is $40 as well....Not bad, eh?



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MontanaHatchet said:
Well of course games in Europe are expensive! And hell if anyone knows why!

1. VAT is included in the listed prices so you get an inflated price comapred to US and Japan.

2. Requires multiple translations, packaging services, distribution services, retailers idffeences, etc...   That adds up to a lot when the US and Japan only need one instance of each of those.

 



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Personally, I think games are pretty cheap nowadays. I remember my parents buying me 2 games a year when I was a kid. They were also much harder to find (well, the good ones). A few weeks before Wii got released, I bought a lot of great PS2 games for 20$ each (Star Ocean, Kingdom Heart 2, Gran Turismo). New Wii games are 50$ and they usually stay at that price (the Nintendo title at least) so you can be sure they have a good resale value (I don't sell games though). HD games are more expansive but their price drop after a year or two.



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