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So, fine, you want to say VGChartz is biased, cool.

Link me all these other sites who think the PS3 is gonna win this console generation, with a recent date on their articles.

It's taking some people a lot longer than others to move past the denial stage.

It's only human nature to hang on to hope.

However, wouldn't the PS3 barely slipping by the Wii be considered an empty victory?

Also, in Video Games(Not electronics, or television), Nintendo has a much healthier brand than Sony from a sales and popularity perspective. I hate to break that to ya.

I want people to put up or shut up.

If you're on here complaining that we don't give Sony a chance to win this generation, then you change it.

You predict right now that Sony will beat the Wii this gen, in userbase.

It's a simple prediction, you lose nothing by stating it. Go ahead. If you talk the talk, feel free to walk the walk.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Cueil said:
Euphoria14 said:
Gnizmo said:
Euphoria14 said:

 

$600 model dropped to $500.

$500 model dropped to $400.

PS3 dropped $100.

I have not seen the $400 top model and $300 lower end models yet, have you?

So does that mean 360 had a $260 drop in 3 years?

 It is region dependant I think. The only model Europe got I believe was the 600 euro one and currently the only model is the 400 euro one. Please correct me if I am wrong on that point.

 As for America, well the arguement still can be used. the 20gb was rare at launch and discontinued shortly there after. There was a tim when the only model being sold was a $600 model. Currently the only model being sold is the $400 one. This is all a moot point though since it is just a fanboy pissing contest that means nothing even on the internets.

 

Well if they want to get into region specifics the 360 is now 170 euros down from 399 euros in Europe from what I know with the Arcade being 130 euros. Even bigger drop if I am not mistaken. Either way, the argument that Sony is desperate is full of fail.

So no matter which way they look at it 360 has had more price drops and slashed more off their price WW than the PS3. All because it was being outsold by the more expensive console on a weekly basis WW. So which sounds more desperate with this info in hand? They made 2 price cuts in about 6 months in Europe.

I just hate the ill informed $200 PS3 price drop argument.

 

Microsoft's price drops have coencided with chip modification and price dropped with cost.  This is not desperation... desperation is dropping stuff off your console to get the price under control.  The only think Microsoft has removed from their console is RRoDs.  I can go point out how Sony's views on BC have drifted completely to the Microsoft side... it was good in the beginning, but really just not needed as we can see from sales charts that are much higher this year without it then last year with it.  If sony can't get it down to 300 with current specs I'm sure non-essencial things like Wi-Fi will be the next to go.  We can counter eachother all day long, but the truth is that the PS3 isn't some f'n super console that will suddenlly fly off to crazy number and take WW sales away from MS this year or next year.

Microsoft did not fix the RROD, that is the biggest myth in the world, on youtube there are tons of videos of Elites getting RRODs, better yet I know 2 people that got 360's for christmas last year and both had the RROD by the time GTA4 came out, RROD will always be there due to the poor design of the 360.

 



Cueil said:
Euphoria14 said:
Gnizmo said:
Euphoria14 said:

 

$600 model dropped to $500.

$500 model dropped to $400.

PS3 dropped $100.

I have not seen the $400 top model and $300 lower end models yet, have you?

So does that mean 360 had a $260 drop in 3 years?

 It is region dependant I think. The only model Europe got I believe was the 600 euro one and currently the only model is the 400 euro one. Please correct me if I am wrong on that point.

 As for America, well the arguement still can be used. the 20gb was rare at launch and discontinued shortly there after. There was a tim when the only model being sold was a $600 model. Currently the only model being sold is the $400 one. This is all a moot point though since it is just a fanboy pissing contest that means nothing even on the internets.

 

Well if they want to get into region specifics the 360 is now 170 euros down from 399 euros in Europe from what I know with the Arcade being 130 euros. Even bigger drop if I am not mistaken. Either way, the argument that Sony is desperate is full of fail.

So no matter which way they look at it 360 has had more price drops and slashed more off their price WW than the PS3. All because it was being outsold by the more expensive console on a weekly basis WW. So which sounds more desperate with this info in hand? They made 2 price cuts in about 6 months in Europe.

I just hate the ill informed $200 PS3 price drop argument.

 

Microsoft's price drops have coencided with chip modification and price dropped with cost.  This is not desperation... desperation is dropping stuff off your console to get the price under control.  The only think Microsoft has removed from their console is RRoDs.  I can go point out how Sony's views on BC have drifted completely to the Microsoft side... it was good in the beginning, but really just not needed as we can see from sales charts that are much higher this year without it then last year with it.  If sony can't get it down to 300 with current specs I'm sure non-essencial things like Wi-Fi will be the next to go.  We can counter eachother all day long, but the truth is that the PS3 isn't some f'n super console that will suddenlly fly off to crazy number and take WW sales away from MS this year or next year.

I never said PS3 was some super console. Although you do need to understand up until a couple weeks ago PS3 was in fact taking WW sales away from the 360 for 36+ weeks I believe. The gap was shrinking on a weekly basis. What makes anyone think this can't be the case again?

Your last sentence is implying that now since the 360 has won 3 of the last 40 or so weeks in WW sales against the PS3 that it will stay that way this year and next?

How would you know this?



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You cant count anyone out yet. Who said people were counting sony out lol its very early in this gen TBH. We will have to see if the wii can keep selling like this with no real quaility 3rd party games comming out on it. If the 360 will keep selling. And if the up and comming hits for the PS3 and brand name will help it. I will just say this too when God of War 3 comes out im getting a Ps3 =).



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PandaexpressPanda said:
Cueil said:
Euphoria14 said:

Well if they want to get into region specifics the 360 is now 170 euros down from 399 euros in Europe from what I know with the Arcade being 130 euros. Even bigger drop if I am not mistaken. Either way, the argument that Sony is desperate is full of fail.

So no matter which way they look at it 360 has had more price drops and slashed more off their price WW than the PS3. All because it was being outsold by the more expensive console on a weekly basis WW. So which sounds more desperate with this info in hand? They made 2 price cuts in about 6 months in Europe.

I just hate the ill informed $200 PS3 price drop argument.

 

Microsoft's price drops have coencided with chip modification and price dropped with cost.  This is not desperation... desperation is dropping stuff off your console to get the price under control.  The only think Microsoft has removed from their console is RRoDs.  I can go point out how Sony's views on BC have drifted completely to the Microsoft side... it was good in the beginning, but really just not needed as we can see from sales charts that are much higher this year without it then last year with it.  If sony can't get it down to 300 with current specs I'm sure non-essencial things like Wi-Fi will be the next to go.  We can counter eachother all day long, but the truth is that the PS3 isn't some f'n super console that will suddenlly fly off to crazy number and take WW sales away from MS this year or next year.

Microsoft did not fix the RROD, that is the biggest myth in the world, on youtube there are tons of videos of Elites getting RRODs, better yet I know 2 people that got 360's for christmas last year and both had the RROD by the time GTA4 came out, RROD will always be there due to the poor design of the 360.

 

 

Jasper says hello. He moved in in september and he's here to say. Sure there were x360 that would still RRoD if they're older models, but new ones shouldn't have the problem. Can they? Sure they can but you'd really have to in an oven for that to happen. 

Heres what MS did do though, they extended warranty on all xboxs to 3 years and put aside $1 billion to fix consoles bricked by RROD. You're a bit ignorant to say that MS hasn't have incentive in the past 3 years to fix the problem




My Falcon 360 (purchases in February) is still running wonderfully, this includes some weekends where I may play and/or leave it on for hours at a time. I played through Halo 3 in one sitting last week and not a single hiccup. So it seems like they did a good job for me in terms of preventing RROD. If this was a launch 360 I would have beat it into the ground by now from what I heard.

My 360 sits on a small end table on the side of my TV stand with plenty of fresh air to breathe in.



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ymeaga1n said:
PandaexpressPanda said:
Cueil said:
Euphoria14 said:

Well if they want to get into region specifics the 360 is now 170 euros down from 399 euros in Europe from what I know with the Arcade being 130 euros. Even bigger drop if I am not mistaken. Either way, the argument that Sony is desperate is full of fail.

So no matter which way they look at it 360 has had more price drops and slashed more off their price WW than the PS3. All because it was being outsold by the more expensive console on a weekly basis WW. So which sounds more desperate with this info in hand? They made 2 price cuts in about 6 months in Europe.

I just hate the ill informed $200 PS3 price drop argument.

 

Microsoft's price drops have coencided with chip modification and price dropped with cost.  This is not desperation... desperation is dropping stuff off your console to get the price under control.  The only think Microsoft has removed from their console is RRoDs.  I can go point out how Sony's views on BC have drifted completely to the Microsoft side... it was good in the beginning, but really just not needed as we can see from sales charts that are much higher this year without it then last year with it.  If sony can't get it down to 300 with current specs I'm sure non-essencial things like Wi-Fi will be the next to go.  We can counter eachother all day long, but the truth is that the PS3 isn't some f'n super console that will suddenlly fly off to crazy number and take WW sales away from MS this year or next year.

Microsoft did not fix the RROD, that is the biggest myth in the world, on youtube there are tons of videos of Elites getting RRODs, better yet I know 2 people that got 360's for christmas last year and both had the RROD by the time GTA4 came out, RROD will always be there due to the poor design of the 360.

 

 

Jasper says hello. He moved in in september and he's here to say. Sure there were x360 that would still RRoD if they're older models, but new ones shouldn't have the problem. Can they? Sure they can but you'd really have to in an oven for that to happen. 

Heres what MS did do though, they extended warranty on all xboxs to 3 years and put aside $1 billion to fix consoles bricked by RROD. You're a bit ignorant to say that MS hasn't have incentive in the past 3 years to fix the problem

it would still happen, even they improved the failure rate rrod is likely to happen, also its doens't only happen due overheating but also many other hardware problems.

you know 3 million people suing  m$ would be a bigger problem than 1 billion lost due faulty hardware.

search 360 rrod or red ring of dead in youtube and you will get tons of them.

many recently and some even got 2 in the same week, of a new bought system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pyCEsYRkr0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsQfISy_23s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BSqvsonKx8



Everstar said:
^ I still have a 360 that has a 12 Gb hard drive if that means anything.No Rrod

 

Mine has that 20...errr... 12GB HDD as well. I think as long as you don't suffocate the thing it should be fine. My 8 hour gaming sessions provide some proof. For me anyways.

Fable II will be the ultimate test for me. I am going to beat the hell out my console when that game is released.



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