Care to elaborate?



That's something I don't like in Bethesda games but its ridiculous to say it about Baldur's Gate 2 (or Fallout or KOTOR or ....) All of these had excellent story-lines and very good quests. Without the endless cut-scenes of JRPGs.




Also definitely not true for WRPGs like Baldur's Gate 2 which had IMO the best, most interesting battle system of any RPG ever. The possibilities to win were endless the ways to game the system pretty slim. But JRPG style round based battle systems are so old. They have been not fun anymore since Might&Magic 5.

All in all WRPG >>>>> JRPG.

ecurbj said: Sonic the Hedgehog on PS3/X360--FAIL Sonic and the Secret Rings on Wii--FAIL Sonic Chronicles on DS--FAIL Only thing left is the new Sonic game that will be released on the PS3/Xbox 360. Sega should just retire the franchise. I gave up on the franchise when it left the Sega Genesis. I knew Sega would use Sonic a lot. So they can be saved in the console wars. But the franchise failed and lost steam. After Sonic the Hedgehog 2, I lost complete interest in the series.

 

 Since Sonic The Hedgehog 2?

There's been quite a few good ones since then I can assure you!

Try since Sonic Adventure 2 and you'd be closer to the mark

Kyros said: are the exact same issues that are in nearly every WRPG ... ven the best ones like Baldur's Gate II Care to elaborate? tedious point-to-point fetch quests with very little story to push the experience That's something I don't like in Bethesda games but its ridiculous to say it about Baldur's Gate 2 (or Fallout or KOTOR or ....) All of these had excellent story-lines and very good quests. Without the endless cut-scenes of JRPGs. and a battle system that gets too repetitive far too fast. Also definitely not true for WRPGs like Baldur's Gate 2 which had IMO the best, most interesting battle system of any RPG ever. The possibilities to win were endless the ways to game the system pretty slim. But JRPG style round based battle systems are so old. They have been not fun anymore since Might&Magic 5. All in all WRPG >>>>> JRPG.

Some of us enjoy the sickening over done sentimental stuff in J-RPGs

Some of us love the simple battle system.

Some of us want to be told a story, and not be the one telling it.

Some of us don't like "create a character". I never did get that.

Some of us think W-RPGs are just bland and watered down medieval smelly poo.

 

Its all down to personal taste, I know a lot of peeps say that. But in this case it really is isn't it?

I for one can't stand the inventory system in W-RPGs, or the battle system, or the aimless roaming around...

 

RolStoppable said: Riachu said: Ouch. I thought I'd never a 6.5 for a Bioware game on a mainstream gaming site. Even the story isn't up to Bioware standards. Who in the hell's idea was it to make the first 6 hours of the game mostly fecth quests? That's just lazy(and poor) game design. Dialouge trees don't have long term effect in the stort neither. They might as well not have the dialouge trees there at all and have the game labeled as a Western-developed JRPG. Even with that said, the game doesn't seem THAT bad. If fact, I think that with the Sonic brand and the fact that this game is a starter RPG, I think that Bioware was trying to get a bigger RPG fanbase by aiming the game at children(all Sonic games are aimed at children so I'm not suprised). I'll probably write a mini review of the game late next week. Not too sure what I should think of this game after reading the full IGN review, but it doesn't sound too good. You say that all Sonic games are aimed at children, but I disagree with that. Getting 100 % in the 3D platformers and the Sonic Rush games turned out to be quite challenging, seems to me like Sonic games are aimed at a large age bracket, kinda like Mario games which have challenging enough parts to entertain experienced gamers.

but you never see a Mario game appealing to giving an annoying character a boyfriend so that she becomes even more annoying. even Sonic Rush has some really annoying dialogue, that looks like it came from the cartoon, if that wasn't Riachu's point, well, that's my opinion on why Sega is kinda lost with Sonic (that and making bad games do not help at all lol)

 

It is. I also agree in one regard. The western approach of character customization is nothing I like and nothing that enhances gameplay IMO. That's something which is great for Tabletop but in the end you are experiencing a story so making your own character doesn't help much. (and is almost inexistant in old Ultima games etc.)

Aww... I was hoping for IGN to give it a score closer to 7.5. Eh, w/e I'll still be getting it. Sis is a big Sonic fan. I also wouldn't mind playing it. =P

maybe thats the lates sonic game
i want the first adventure of sonic in HD that would be great

:(

I had hoped this would be really good.

Phoenix_Wiight said: lol its sad that some people aren't going to buy it now because of the rating it got by one site that usually has some medicore reviews. im still looking foward to it.

 

 I agree. I'm looking forward to it also.

Some other reviews have said some pretty good things so everyone should at least look at other reviews before they pass judgment.

Its getting better scores in other mags ....maybe its a 7 or 7.5 ...a decent game.


I think Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 on the Dreamcast are great games ,definitely up to the high level of the Genesis offerings.