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Teh new Toyota Camaree is not next-gen becuz it does not goes ten times as fast as the 2007 model!

EDIT: Posting my point from the last page here...

Technically, a new generation of any technical device is just the successor to the previous generation that includes some major upgrade, improvement, or overhaul from the previous 'generation'. The Wii is well more than twice as powerful as it's predecessor (if you go based only on clock speeds, your argument is very shallow. Memory architecture, more texture & pixel pipelines, removed bottlenecks, etc, all play a very important role in overall speed), is far more efficient power-wise, included built in WiFi, and improved case design vs it's predecessor. The Wii also revolutionized console controls as we know them. If that's not a jump that justifies it being a 'next gen' compared to it's predecessor, I don't know what is.

I don't see your logic here. Not even remotely.



Ah, this brings back memories. Not good memories but memories nonetheless.



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ManusJustus said:
When we refer to generations, we are speaking about their graphic and processing capabilities. So no, I am not out of line when I say that graphics are important.

Third Generation - 8 bit era
Fourth Generation - 16 bit era
Fifth Generation 32/64 bit era
Sixth Generation - 128 bit era

 

I'll answer this with a simple quote from Wikipedia:

"Most high-end CPUs today have 64-bit memory address; there are only very few true 128-bit supercomputer chips."



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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Xen said:
NiKKoM said:
ManusJustus said:
When we refer to generations, we are speaking about their graphic and processing capabilities. So no, I am not out of line when I say that graphics are important.

Third Generation - 8 bit era
Fourth Generation - 16 bit era
Fifth Generation 32/64 bit era
Sixth Generation - 128 bit era

 

Dude.. so we are all stuck in the fifth generation?? there are no 128 bit processors....

the ps3 cell is 64 bit...

128-bit graphics chips.

 

The Emotion Engine was a 128 bit processor due to the 128 bit vector processing units, does that mean the PS2 and PS3 are in the same generation? At the same time the XBox's CPU and GPU were both 32 bit processors, does that mean that the XBox was in the same generation as the Playstation?

Bits became an unimportant measure of performance when we moved past 32bit architectures...



HappySqurriel said:
Xen said:
NiKKoM said:
ManusJustus said:
When we refer to generations, we are speaking about their graphic and processing capabilities. So no, I am not out of line when I say that graphics are important.

Third Generation - 8 bit era
Fourth Generation - 16 bit era
Fifth Generation 32/64 bit era
Sixth Generation - 128 bit era

 

Dude.. so we are all stuck in the fifth generation?? there are no 128 bit processors....

the ps3 cell is 64 bit...

128-bit graphics chips.

 

The Emotion Engine was a 128 bit processor due to the 128 bit vector processing units, does that mean the PS2 and PS3 are in the same generation? At the same time the XBox's CPU and GPU were both 32 bit processors, does that mean that the XBox was in the same generation as the Playstation?

Bits became an unimportant measure of performance when we moved past 32bit architectures...

I think we should measure generations by high heat production and inefficiency power usage. In this case, wii has actually moved backwards and PS3 and X360 are the only true next-gen consoles.

However, If we measure this in higher failure rate, the X360 is the only next-gen console as it has bigger numbers in this catagory.

Or we could measure generational jumps by how shiny the case is, in this case, the PS3 is the only next-gen console out there.

Just a thought.



Its current gen yo!



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

ManusJustus said:

We (or more accurately video game developers, analysists, etc.) have always refered to generations by power.

No, we the media, do not.   We stated 8 bit and 16 bit eras because it made for easy reference but was hardly an official classification.

 

Wikipedia has a relatively accurate timeline for the generations.   Time and succesive flaship console release are the ONLY metric used to qualify for a generation.    Power or data address bits was never and never will be a generation metric for anything other than simple reference.

First generation (1972–1977)
Second generation (1976–1984)
Third generation (1983–1992)
Fourth generation (1987–1996)
Fifth generation (1993–2002)
Sixth generation (1998–2006)
Seventh generation (2005–)



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