come on, I will personally give £10 to whoever can proove which is the correct god from my list, you must prove why they stand out from the others.

I bet no-one will take this.

My betting is that Ceres Roman Goddess of agriculture and grain is the real supreme god if any because I have seen Ceres on several occasions, granted we now know it is just a planet of rock and ice just past Mars. But to me that makes the claim more justified than many others.

Actually pretty likely, but lets not go there.

I'm saying a nonphyscial realm cannot have the problems and implications of physical time applied to it, for it being nonphyscial.  It is, therefore, nonsenseical to ask what was happening in such a realm for all the time before it created this one, because there is no "before" in a nonphyscial realm.  God was not in limbo for eternity before the creation, because there was no eternity for him to be in.

I'm not saying that time cannot go on forever.  It's prefectly fine to think that the universe will keep going on and on.  What I'm saying is impossible is to have an infinite past, to have had the universe already experience an infinite amount of time, which is exactly like trying to count to infinity and past it; if the universe has been oscillating, then that's exactly what it would have to do by implication of the idea (count up to and past infinity).  Yes the universe can go on forever, but there where never be a point in its future where an infinite amount of time has passed.

Why is there no before in a spiritual realm?  There was a time in the spiritual realm before God created the Universe, and there was a time in the spiritual realm after God created the universe.  In that time before 'creation' I would suppose that God was in existence forever, rather than being created at a single point in time.

0 + infinity is the same thing as infinity plus infinity, it has an infinite value.  If you say there can be an infinite future then you are implying an infinite past.

There wasn't a time before the creation of the physcial, because time is a purely physcial concept.  One cannot ask what he was doing before creation because it's nonsensical to ask of a before.  That's not saying God came into existence the moment he created, it's just saying that time does not apply.

What I mean by it being able to have an infinite future is that we could wait 50 quadrillion years and it would still exist.  However, we could never wait an infinite amount of years (counting to infinity), which is what is implied by the oscillating universe idea.  No matter how long you wait, you'll never come to a point in time where there is an infinite amount of time behind you.

Just becaue you say it is nonsensical doesn't make it so.  You are making assumptions that a spiritual realm exists as well as assumptions of characteristics of that spiritual realm, anyone could do the same thing and make any argument they wish.  Did God exist before the creation of the universe?  Yes, then God is eternal.  No, then God was created.

You can wait an infinite amount of years, otherwise time would have a stopping point.  If you go 50 quadrillion years into the future you would still have an infinite amount of time ahead of you.

Consider the equation y = x where x is a function of time.  There is an infinite negative value (past) and an infinite positive value (future).  If I am at x = 1 and I would have an infinite negative value (past) and infinite positive value (future) in either direction.

In the same way that a being living in a 2-dimensional world could not possibly explain a 3-dimensional being with their own science and understanding (nor could they prove or disprove the existence of a 3-dimensional being from their perspective), our understanding of our own physical, 3-dimensional world cannot explain, prove, or disprove the existence of God, a being that lives in a world of higher dimensions (outside time). We can make assumptions of the existence of God based on our limited understanding, but those assumptions are very subjective to our own opinions and interpretation of facts and the world around us.

Because of this, the only real, solid evidence that one can have of the existence of God is personal experiences, and a living relationship with Him- To those of you who don't have these personal experiences, it seems foolish to believe in something you can't see, because you haven't experienced him; to those of us who have experienced God's power, witnessed his intervention, and have a living relationship with him, it seems foolish to live without that. Arguments seldom convince nonbelievers of the existence of God.

The only way to convince others is for us as the Church of Jesus to begin to live in the love and power that Jesus demonstrated for us through His life, and use our lives as proof that God is alive and well. Until the Church is willing to step out of dead religion, and back into a living, powerful relationship with our creator, we have no power to convince people of the existence and love of God.

 I'm not saying that such a being does exist, I'm saying that if such a bieng existed he would be, by definition, outside of time, because time is physcial, and the being is not.  It's not an assumption.  If it's not physical then physcial attributes cannot be applied.  That being said, he (in the argument) exists apart from the universe, and there is no time to measure for him.

You cannot ascribe past and future to the function in such a manner, because that point is just a point on the graph, not a measurement of how far it's gone along the graph.  Also, there is a difference between having an infinite future and past.  For the future, you haven't gone on forever, whereas in the past, you have, which is impossible.

It soundss like you have been reading Flatland. Just because there may have been something that created the universe in another universe doesn't mean it's god. It also doesn't mean that Jesus was anything other than a normal human being with the ability to get people to follow him with blind faith. Also, I doubt that if anything from another dimension did spark our universe that they give a shit about us or are abel to control our world at all. Please point me to the 2D universe so we can go be their gods. Didn't think you could.