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a.l.e.x59 said:
There's an 80 GB Playstation 3 now? Damn it, I bought the 60 GB Playstation 3, because it was the best one, and now there's a better one? I hate that. My Playstation 3 isn't the best one anymore, and not only that, it devalued by $100. Funny thing is, the 60 GB, and 80 GB Playstation 3, are both still more expensive than the Xbox 360, and Xbox 360 Elite. Do I have to sell my 60 GB Playstation 3 now, and buy the 80 GB? Damn, that's going to drive me nuts. I have the best Xbox 360, best Wii (well, there's only one version), and had the best Playstation 3, but Sony had to release one with 20 GB more. Drat! Drag rabbit! Damn! Dang nabbit!

 Honestly, save yourself somemoney and buy a bigger hard drive if it matters that much.  You don't need to sell your PS3 and upgrade to the bigger model.

 On NewEgg you can get a 120GB for $70 or 250GB for $190

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150380+1035907918+130971534&Subcategory=380



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libellule said:
no the PS3's lowest price point has not changed.

==> WRONG,
the 20gb was a not full PS3 version that laked a lot of things compared to the 60GB version. It was not a complete PS3 version.
At the oppposite the PS3 60GB is only laking 20 little GB compared to the 80GB version. So it is definively the same console that u can get for 500$ , that is cheaper than the 600$ u were paying in the past = price drop
I dont even metion that the 20GB model was stopped some month ago because people were NOT buying it since it was not a COMPLETE PS3.

I add this from Bodsatva that saied it better than me :

"I think Sony's decision to make the 599 version a "limited edition" was a very smart move. Even to the casual consumer, this screams "This is optional, you don't have to buy the new 80GB limited version." Even if the 80GB model does take over eventually, for now I think even uninformed consumers will understand that the 599 version doesn't contain essential components that the 499 version does not (that's always a nagging concern -- I'm sure you've purchased items that have multiple SKUs in markets you no little about, and wondered "why is this one cheaper?"

 Libellue, the bottom line is this. At launch you needed $500 to get a PS3. Today you need $500 to get a PS3.

 



http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/13/sony-switcheroo-no-more-60gb-playstation-3-in-us-after-july/

Turns out. The 60 gig is going the way of the dodo as well. As of august 1st, the only PS3 that sony sells will be a 600 dollar 80 gb version. The 500 dollar price for the 60 gig is a clearance price, and nothing more. Not a price drop, its a 1 month sale.



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Wii: 14 million by January  I sold myself short

360: 13 million by January I sold microsoft short, but not as bad as Nintendo.

PS3: 6 million by January. If it approaches 8 mil i'll eat crow  Mnn Crow is yummy.

With these results, I've determined that I suck at long term predictions, and will not long term predict anything ever again. Thus spaketh Crono.

Crono said:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/13/sony-switcheroo-no-more-60gb-playstation-3-in-us-after-july/

Turns out. The 60 gig is going the way of the dodo as well. As of august 1st, the only PS3 that sony sells will be a 600 dollar 80 gb version. The 500 dollar price for the 60 gig is a clearance price, and nothing more. Not a price drop, its a 1 month sale.

I don't buy it. Look at it from Sony's perspective: they can say that they're phasing out the cheaper version, and while it might not be great PR, it makes it feel like a limited-time offer that people should rush out and grab. "Get it while it's still here, because when it's gone it's back to $600!"

If they're planning to drop the 80 gig to $499 after 60 gig stocks run out, it would be a stupid move to reveal that - no one would buy it now. So they say they're sticking with the $599 price point on it.

Like I said, I don't buy it. It would be suicide for them to go into another holiday season at $600. I'm still going with the theory that they're phasing out the 60 gig, then dropping the price on the 80 gig (without Motorstorm, obviously) to fill the void. 




You re right Borkachev
It would be stupid to clearly say that in 1 month the 80gb will cost the same price than the actual 60gb model ...
I still wait a TRUE sony interview to clearly know what they are going to do for PS3 in NA and EU.

Time to Work !

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libellule said:
no the PS3's lowest price point has not changed.

==> WRONG,
the 20gb was a not full PS3 version that laked a lot of things compared to the 60GB version. It was not a complete PS3 version.
At the oppposite the PS3 60GB is only laking 20 little GB compared to the 80GB version. So it is definively the same console that u can get for 500$ , that is cheaper than the 600$ u were paying in the past = price drop
I dont even metion that the 20GB model was stopped some month ago because people were NOT buying it since it was not a COMPLETE PS3.

I add this from Bodsatva that saied it better than me :

"I think Sony's decision to make the 599 version a "limited edition" was a very smart move. Even to the casual consumer, this screams "This is optional, you don't have to buy the new 80GB limited version." Even if the 80GB model does take over eventually, for now I think even uninformed consumers will understand that the 599 version doesn't contain essential components that the 499 version does not (that's always a nagging concern -- I'm sure you've purchased items that have multiple SKUs in markets you no little about, and wondered "why is this one cheaper?"


Ok really, enough with this. Stop playing symantecs!The 20GB PS3 was in fact a PS3, just because you don't view it as a full version does not mean the mass consumer sees things the same way. And honestly you are trying to debate what is fact, the lowest retail price for a PS3 was $500 before this price change, and it still is. This is a fact, disputing this is intellectually dishonest.

That said, I realise many people think that the 20 GB version was watered down..and it was! But if you are living on a fixed income with 3 kids that $100 difference can mean the world, and your kids are just going to have to suck it up and not have the extra frills. Nobody is debating that the 60GB at $500 is the best value so far, it most certainly is.

The contention being made is that a price cut is designed to regain the interests of consumers who had deemed the console too expensive in the past. Some of those people will still think it is too expensive because to them the price hasn't changed anything(un-informed consumers are a reality), and to some the value of the $500 60GB PS3 is now worthwhile and they will buy. What it boils down to is Sony will likely not see the full impact of an across the board price cut, but they most certainly will (and already have) see a boost in sales.

You can add lots of bias and spin to that but those are the facts. Ultimately how you or I choose to view these facts has no bearing on what will happen, but it makes for a much more interesting conversion if we can dispense with the symantecs and get to the core of the issue. And the core of this issue to me is how many of the people who were waiting for a price cut are now going to buy?



To Each Man, Responsibility

The new 80 GB PS3 is watered down it DOES not have an emotion engine chip and therefor limited campatability. Because of this and the fact that 60 and 80 GB HD cost the same to produce means that the New 600 dollar PS3 is cheaper to produce than the 60GB.

It makes sense for them to discontinue the 60GB model sell off its stock at a 100 dollar discount and have only the 80GB model left and than introduce another price cut to 500 later this year to bump sales again.



You can hear it from the horses mouth (Kaz) here:

http://atvs.vg.no/?id=10235

"Once that product (60gb) is gone from the retailers shevles,  then we're back to the $599 sku only"



redspear said:
The new 80 GB PS3 is watered down it DOES not have an emotion engine chip and therefor limited campatability. Because of this and the fact that 60 and 80 GB HD cost the same to produce means that the New 600 dollar PS3 is cheaper to produce than the 60GB.

It makes sense for them to discontinue the 60GB model sell off its stock at a 100 dollar discount and have only the 80GB model left and than introduce another price cut to 500 later this year to bump sales again.

If that's the case and they are also discontinuing the 60GB, the 'price drop' will actually be a value DECREASE if they keep the 80GB model at $599 once the 60GB's are gone. An upgrade from 60GB to 80GB is costing sony PENNIES, and is more than offset by the removal of the emotion engine (if that's true)



Timmah! said:
redspear said:
The new 80 GB PS3 is watered down it DOES not have an emotion engine chip and therefor limited campatability. Because of this and the fact that 60 and 80 GB HD cost the same to produce means that the New 600 dollar PS3 is cheaper to produce than the 60GB.

It makes sense for them to discontinue the 60GB model sell off its stock at a 100 dollar discount and have only the 80GB model left and than introduce another price cut to 500 later this year to bump sales again.

If that's the case and they are also discontinuing the 60GB, the 'price drop' will actually be a value DECREASE if they keep the 80GB model at $599 once the 60GB's are gone. An upgrade from 60GB to 80GB is costing sony PENNIES, and is more than offset by the removal of the emotion engine (if that's true)


Which is exactly why they are doing it. They introduce a cheaper model at the full price wiht a small upgrade in HD to entice consumers while they sell out there remaining system stock at the lower SKU price. The make the money back with the new SKU and even though they lose money on the old SKU they increase their user base through the inital spike after the price cut and the 10% increase in monthly sales afterwords. Then they can drop teh price for real to 499 later and see another spike on a cheaper to make system.

 

OH and they did remove the EE from the 80 GB on the Box there is a limited compatability warning.