The same place all the PS3>360 people are. Trying to come up with damage control and excuses.

The 360 had a price cut coming, so people held off from buying it. The PS3 had supply shortages? Comments?

Top10:
01.) 360 MADDEN NFL 09 1.000.000 [1.000.000]
02.) PS3 MADDEN NFL 09 643.000 [643.000]
03.) PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 424.500 [424.500]
04.) WII WII FIT 394.900 [1.827.900]
05.) WII MARIO KART 328.700 [2.737.700]
06.) WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 200.200 [6.608.700]
07.) 360 SOUL CALIBUR IV 174.000 [392.900]
08.) 360 TOO HUMAN 168.200 [168.200]
09.) WII MADDEN NFL 09 115.800 [115.800]
10.) NDS GUITAR HERO: ON TOUR 111.200 [843.200]
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xx.) PS3 SOUL CALIBUR IV 107.200 [107.200]
xx.) PSP MADDEN NFL 09 32.500 [32.500]


All Format:
Madden NFL 09: 2.300.000 [84.200 NDS + XBX]
Soul Calibur IV: 281.200
GTA IV: 89.000

It will be interesting to see if Wii Fit can pass GTAIV 360 before the end of the year in the US. I think it's possible if they stockpile enough for the holidays.

The PS2 has every demographic... when all was said and done.  It's first year was horrid.  It took a long time to build up that library and it wasn't always rosy.  Madden 09's inability to sell on Wii (at least in it's first month) stems from two problems, both from EA.

1. The "All-Play" Purpose branding, effectively making the game out to be some kind of "Sub-Game" or at the very least "different" from "Regular" Madden.

2. EA's decision to basically only market the 360 version via Walmart and such.

This would be a problem for Nintendo... if Nintendo weren't ahead of everybody and making cash hand over fist.  If EA wants to cater to the 360 and PS3 owners and the HD press, even while they post losses or miniscule profits, that's their choice.

I think what's gone unnoticed here is that Madden, once the champion of the casual gamer, the beating, straight-laced heart of the PS2, has become a hardcore game, what with Midnight launches and super special deluxe 20th anniversary editions, and the commercials showing dumpy fat white guys. (target market, eh?)

To say that Madden's sales "show the demographics" of the Wii is slipshod logic that can easily be disproven with the DS.  Madden sells terribly there too.  But I'm not about to challenge the DS's "demographics" and say they don't have any 16-30 males who own it.  (This number range gets smaller each time, which is weird.  Apparently once you turn 30 you turn in your gamer credentials and any gameplaying after that is considered "uncool" for you to do.)  And Because of this, you cannot make the same assertion about the Wii, because 16-30 males do own it and when the Wii just contines to barn-burn it's way through a historical third mostly sold-out holiday straight, the potential market for 16-30 males on the Wii will become larger than MS's.  Just like how the PSP is directly advertised to 16-30 males, despite the DS actually having more of them and everybody else too.

Clever comeback. Now if you could actually cite posts of people who claimed that, I would have a small shred of respect for that post (proven joke fanboys don't count, by the way).

Madden has kind of pigeon holed itself into no growth, because it only serves a very specific audience. Even though the Wii sales weren't great, something has to be done to get new people onboard otherwise the sales will remain the same year after year. I'm not saying that's horrible, but some growth is better than no growth.

I'd say we know the opposite... afterall the Olympics are sports.

To my knowledge, yes.

A. Being undertrackd by 3-11% is not the same as an overtrack of 133%.   5% alone is typical range for margin of error.

B. Fila, it's not about how large the shelf space is but the volume they sell overall as a percentage compared to the NPD tracked stores like Gamestop.

Wow.... so much over some sports games.... I love reading these kind of debates.....