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DKII on 11 July 2007

the conference is already over and you've been unbanned, what's your point?



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NJ5 on 11 July 2007
ckmlb said:
Gballzack said:
ckmlb said:
1. I love how the Nintendo fanboys can't argue that the E3 was better for Nintendo so keep going: 'predict sales!'.

2. Game quality easily for me beats sales. Do you get anything out of a company selling more? no, but you get from playing the games.

3. Sony delivered and my expectations were really high.

4. Hell the most Anti Sony people can't find much negative to say about this E3.

1. I love how Sony fanboys can't convince anyone other than themselves that these games will save the PS3. I'm sorry, I don't mean to bash, but after Ninja Gaiden's flop, what do you honestly want these games to do. Killzone looks uterly breathtaking! But after the first one's mediocre success, who outside of the hardcore minority is going to care?

2. If by Game quality you mean better graphics. Game quality is a subjective standard and something assigned invidividually and after the fact, not an objective rule. And by my company selling more, I get more games, more exclusives and an angry fandom of Sony fanboys who can't stand the fact that things for the PS3 are looking grimmer and grimmer financially. By your logic of self-attributed value, I could say the Wii has the quality games and be just as justified as it is nothing more than an opinion to begin with. The only reason you act like Sales don't matter now is because you don't have them. Nintendo has never been the best in graphics and it doesn't need to start being the best now. I'll take Game quality over graphics anyday. :)

3. Graphically the PS3 will always deliver and will always meet the expectations of those looking to see beautiful games.

4. Maybe they just realize that this thread is perfectly suitable as its own venue for Sony fans and other interested parties to discuss a particular event, not bash other consoles. It's not that there aren't things to bash, its just somewhat lacking prudence when the thread itself is designed to praise Sony. We had to deal with you folk in the Nintendo Conference thread, don't act like this is anything new.


Not this again, why do you insist on making a whole essay every tim. This will go on forever. Good luck with your trolling I am off.


So when people actually reply to your points you say they're trolling?



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naznatips on 11 July 2007
albionus said:
ckmlb said:
I love how the Nintendo fanboys can't argue that the E3 was better for Nintendo so keep going: 'predict sales!'.

Game quality easily for me beats sales. Do you get anything out of a company selling more? no, but you get from playing the games.

Sony delivered and my expectations were really high.

Hell the most Anti Sony people can't find much negative to say about this E3.

Wow, I just had a flashback to what Nintendo fanboys were saying 5 years ago.


LOL QFT.  Apparently anyone who didn't love Sony's press conference is now a Nintendo fanboy?  Thanks for telling me that ckmlb.  Anything else you want to tell me about myself while we are here?



akuma587 on 11 July 2007

O yeah. Forgot to mention that NC Soft is now a Sony company. They did Lineage, Guild Wars, and something else. Never played any of their games, but heard people rage about Guild Wars. Not a big deal to me cause I don't like MMO's, but it certainly isn't a bad thing to have more developers.



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Andir on 11 July 2007
albionus said:
NJ5 said:
Sony may have done a good job (considering the material they had) with this presentation, but still not good enough to get out the craphole they stuck themselves at.

Yeah that's how I think this plays for Sony overall. Even if Sony had the best show they really needed to do a better job than that. All they showed was that they are going to give MS one hell of a fight for 40 million or so hardcore segment. They really needed to show they have an idea about how to capture the 100+ million market they used to dominate.


 Sony is still very much in it's first year.  At the price, they have to justify it for the hardcore.  From what I captured of the Nintendo conference, they don't really care about the hardcore crowd and they are trying to get as many sales as they can now.  I truthfully don't see the Wii with a long life and the price is in that bracket that it's ok.  Replacing a Wii in 4-5 years is much easier to accept than a $5-600 purchase.  When the price starts to lower and HDTV sales start picking up, then you may see Sony market to the "casual" market but there's no real need right now, in my honest opinion.  Sony is fighting for that HD market.  They want to prove that you want a Wii and PS3 instead of a Wii and 360.



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leo-j on 11 July 2007
ckmlb said:
3 PM PSN is supposed to get an update, I expect Lair and Heavenly Sword demos and Killlzone 2 and MGS 4 videos.

The demos might come today or tomorrow, but the videos are already there every single sony e3 video of there 200+ games coming to the ps3, now can people be quite about PS3 HAS NO GAMES UGA UGA!!!! the wii is the one that has no games if you look at it.



 

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BenKenobi88 on 11 July 2007
Celb said:
funny no wii fanboys baned for their bs yet.

yet one contrevesial yet TRUE post from me in the nintendo thread and bam your ass is out.


 I don't think my godly mod powers allow me to "bane" anybody.

Don't take this personally Celb...but why do trolls like to say "funny" in almost every single post?  It bugs the crap outta me.



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ckmlb on 11 July 2007
naznatips said:
albionus said:
ckmlb said:


LOL QFT. Apparently anyone who didn't love Sony's press conference is now a Nintendo fanboy? Thanks for telling me that ckmlb. Anything else you want to tell me about myself while we are here?

No the fact that many people were just in here to put down everything they showed are fanboys. Did I say if you didn't like the Sony E3 you're a fanboy? Putting words into my mouth to win an argument is lame.

Also, at least you said Sony had the best E3, so I don't count you in the same group as some others :) 

 



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ckmlb on 11 July 2007

I wonder what NC Soft is gonna do for Sony? PS3 MMOs coming, the Agency and the NC Soft project.

Good move for Sony I think, MMOs on PC and in the future on consoles are gonna be great money.



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Gballzack on 11 July 2007
ckmlb said:

 Not this again, why do you insist on making a whole essay every tim. This will go on forever. Good luck with your trolling I am off.


Sorry my points can't be summed up in vague single scentences that offer no reason, depth or content like yours. Nice cop out by the way, "too many words" is now an excuse to not argue? You sure showed me.