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Bitmap Frogs on 01 September 2008

Blue Dragon is a very nice game. It got pretty much lambasted because it was the first real jrpg of the gen with Uematsu, Sakaguchi and Toriyama in the cast and a shooter box exclusive. The characters are awful and the story is pretty generic and archaic (think preFF7 jrpgs) which kinda drags down the game.

One thing I didn't understand is why they patched later the harder difficulty levels... the job system is pretty much useless on normal play since the game's a cakewalk but notch up the difficulty and it all makes a lot of sense. Unlike LO, the ending is awesome. The last level is fabulous and the state of things at the end of the game makes me sad since the chances of a BD2 are slim. Oh, bonus points for the Toriyama in-game appearance.

Lost Odyssey is more solid overall, it also has some technical issues but the game runs better than Blue Dragon. Some of the characters are genuinely interesting and the story is crafted better. The early-mid game story arch of reuniting together what remains of Caim's family worked very well. It kinda goes dry at the end because it turns totally FF-esque.





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Shadowblind on 01 September 2008
Soriku said:
Tales of Vesperia! Get this. More people need to play Tales! It needs as much popularity as it deserves!

This. Best JRPG on the 360 by miles.

 



GOTY Contestants this year: Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Tales of Graces f. Everything else can suck it.

ctk495 on 01 September 2008

Get Tov.



ToastyJaguar on 01 September 2008

i just got back into blue dragon, i would recommend that if your into japanese anime type stuff.




DeotoxSlayer on 01 September 2008
mrstickball said:
Auron said:

So imight get a 360 soon and the only reason i would ever get this piece of HW is due to the number of JRPGs on the system.  So give me the rundown on the good and the bad JRPGs on the system and your reasons why.  May include upcoming titles.

Here are the current ones I've played, and a few I haven't:

Game Name IMO Score Positives Negatives Verdict:
Lost Odyssey 9.0 Fantastic take on the FFX-esque battle system by Sakaguchi. Good story, and beautiful writing in the Thousand Year Dreams. Very good graphics, perfect musical score, very good VA. 60+ Hours UE3 engine isn't perfect, and there are some technical hangups. The game's combat is very by-the-book If you want to re-live classic JRPG-turned 128bit, get this game. Awesome game.
Tales of Vesperia 8.75 Perfect, deep combat system. Solid & lighthearted storyline. 4 player co-op battle system. Good VA and musical score. 60+ Hours At points, may be too light hearted. I haven't beat it to make any fleshed out neg. comments. I'm about 5hrs in, and ToV may be the best JRPG on the X360, and best ARPG ever.
Blue Dragon 8.75 Beautiful graphics. Classic Uematsu soundtrack. Very good job class system. A true emulation of classic Dragon Quest-esque gameplay. 50+ Hours VA sucks for the most part. Story is kind of by-the-book. Great compliment to Lost Odyssey, but more..Cartoony. Which may be a good thing.
Eternal Sonata 8.0 GORGEOUS CELL SHADED GRAPHICS. Awesome musical score. Good combat system, and passable VA. 30+ Hours Confusing storyline. Combat system gets shallow later on. Unbalanced economy, and rather easy toward the end. Not as good as ToV key respects, but a good compliment, as the GFX are crisp. Has 3p Co-Op which gets a good score from me.
Culdcept Saga 7.75 Pokemon TCG/Monopoly hybrid. One of the best TCG games around. 500+ cards, solid gameplay, good and tough AI. 50+ Hours May not like TCGs. Poor graphics, and a near-useless storyline. Any TCG fan owes it to themselves to play Culdcept Saga. Outside of that...Not many will enjoy the hardcore TCG/Board Game combo it has.
Enchanted Arms 7.25 Good grid-based combat system, nice pokemon-esque collect 'em character system w/ the Golums. 25+ Hours Everything else screams ultra-mediocre. It's a mediocre PS2 RPG with a few next-gen graphical parts. Worth a rent if you've played everything else.
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom 7.25 Sweet JRPG take on Hack & Slash RPG-ing. Technical marvel w/ 50+ enemies onscreen. Tons of loot to be had. 4p Online makes it a gem. Very boring on 1p mode...Forgettable storylines, even with the KUF lore. Must-play if you can find 3 buds to go online with. Otherwise, not very fun by yourself.
Phantasy Star Online 7.0 Good combat system, and has some of the Phantasy Star lore behind it. It also has a decent MMO community still. 20+ Hours Direct PS2 port in every way. SP campaign is short lived, and not that great. SP Campaign isn't that amazing. Combat system saves an otherwise forgettable SP game.
         
Haven't Played: Media Score:
      
Spectral Force 3 62.3% Seems like a mediocre SRPG, with a good combat system...Maybe a good Disagaea clone? Could of been made on the PS2. Not well-enjoyed by media Rent if you must get your SRPG fix.
Operation: Darkness 50.3% Quirky WW2 SRPG/Strategy game. Combat, at points, is interesting, as is the story line. Difficult to work with the camera, and very hard game to beat, thanks to unbalanced mechanics. Same as SF3...Rent if you must play an SRPG. Otherwise, may not be worth time.
         
Coming Soon:        
Infinite Undiscovery Sept 2nd Good open-world ARPG combat system, and tons of unique gameplay mechanics. Short, and filled with technical flaws. 18 Characters make some characters seem uninspired. Looking forward to this one. Looks like a must-play, despite 70.3% avg. from 3 reviews.
Zoids Assault Sept 9th Best SRPG of the Atlus trifecta of SF3, and O:D Not really saying much to be the best out of crappy SRPGs, eh? May be your best SRPG fix on the 360 this year.
The Last Remnant Nov. Actual S-E built JRPG...Good combat system, and interesting character development, progression, and acquisition. UE3-developed game. May suffer from technical flaws. Could be a better version of IU. Who knows? We'll see in November

I think that's it for now?

Generally, the 4 best RPGs are going to be the top 4 I listed. It depends on your JRPG preferences. By all means, get LO and ToV first, as they seem to be the best of the ATB and real-time JRPGs currently. I have both, and can vouch for how good they both are.

 

I agree with most of these. Also since  he hasn't played Spectral force 3 or Operation darkness. Allow me to reccomend that you not to waste your money or time on it. If really want good JRPG's get the good one like Disgae 3 or Valkyria Chronicles which is coming out september for the PS3(only saying this because you have PS3 games in your gmes collection). As for Zoids Assult well I myself a taking a wait and see approach since the other two SRPGs by Atlus have been less than stellar.

If your into MMOs i'd also reccomend Final fanatsy XI since its really fun and it's probably one of the best MMOs ont he 360.

Oh and about the whole Blue dragon arguement. I myself didn't like Blue Dragon much myself. The main reason isn't because the game it self was bad(infact it had beautiful graphics and a beautiful soundtrack) it was because the Story wasn't good and I know quite a lot of people that feel that way, for me the main reason to play a JRPG is for the story and characters and I found Blue Dragons both of those to be rather poor in Blue Dragon.

Get ToV first it's definetly the best RPG on the 360. After that get LO it's the 2nd best JRPG on the 360.



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NNN2004 on 01 September 2008

Tales of Vesperia i play it now & its really awesome.



Barozi on 01 September 2008

He can't play ToV. He lives in Europe (me as well :'( )
You have to wait until 2009



Cactus on 01 September 2008
AceRock said:
It seems to me that I am the only one that has said anything remotely anti-BD. I just need to add that I didn't mean to push any negative agenda here. It just wasn't my personal taste. I tried hard to like it too.

 

I didn't mean exclusively this thread, but in general. Sorry if it felt like I was directing it right at you.



Burgles on 01 September 2008
mrstickball said:
Auron said:

So imight get a 360 soon and the only reason i would ever get this piece of HW is due to the number of JRPGs on the system.  So give me the rundown on the good and the bad JRPGs on the system and your reasons why.  May include upcoming titles.

Here are the current ones I've played, and a few I haven't:

Game Name IMO Score Positives Negatives Verdict:
Lost Odyssey 9.0 Fantastic take on the FFX-esque battle system by Sakaguchi. Good story, and beautiful writing in the Thousand Year Dreams. Very good graphics, perfect musical score, very good VA. 60+ Hours UE3 engine isn't perfect, and there are some technical hangups. The game's combat is very by-the-book If you want to re-live classic JRPG-turned 128bit, get this game. Awesome game.
Tales of Vesperia 8.75 Perfect, deep combat system. Solid & lighthearted storyline. 4 player co-op battle system. Good VA and musical score. 60+ Hours At points, may be too light hearted. I haven't beat it to make any fleshed out neg. comments. I'm about 5hrs in, and ToV may be the best JRPG on the X360, and best ARPG ever.
Blue Dragon 8.75 Beautiful graphics. Classic Uematsu soundtrack. Very good job class system. A true emulation of classic Dragon Quest-esque gameplay. 50+ Hours VA sucks for the most part. Story is kind of by-the-book. Great compliment to Lost Odyssey, but more..Cartoony. Which may be a good thing.
Eternal Sonata 8.0 GORGEOUS CELL SHADED GRAPHICS. Awesome musical score. Good combat system, and passable VA. 30+ Hours Confusing storyline. Combat system gets shallow later on. Unbalanced economy, and rather easy toward the end. Not as good as ToV key respects, but a good compliment, as the GFX are crisp. Has 3p Co-Op which gets a good score from me.
Culdcept Saga 7.75 Pokemon TCG/Monopoly hybrid. One of the best TCG games around. 500+ cards, solid gameplay, good and tough AI. 50+ Hours May not like TCGs. Poor graphics, and a near-useless storyline. Any TCG fan owes it to themselves to play Culdcept Saga. Outside of that...Not many will enjoy the hardcore TCG/Board Game combo it has.
Enchanted Arms 7.25 Good grid-based combat system, nice pokemon-esque collect 'em character system w/ the Golums. 25+ Hours Everything else screams ultra-mediocre. It's a mediocre PS2 RPG with a few next-gen graphical parts. Worth a rent if you've played everything else.
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom 7.25 Sweet JRPG take on Hack & Slash RPG-ing. Technical marvel w/ 50+ enemies onscreen. Tons of loot to be had. 4p Online makes it a gem. Very boring on 1p mode...Forgettable storylines, even with the KUF lore. Must-play if you can find 3 buds to go online with. Otherwise, not very fun by yourself.
Phantasy Star Online 7.0 Good combat system, and has some of the Phantasy Star lore behind it. It also has a decent MMO community still. 20+ Hours Direct PS2 port in every way. SP campaign is short lived, and not that great. SP Campaign isn't that amazing. Combat system saves an otherwise forgettable SP game.
         
Haven't Played: Media Score:
      
Spectral Force 3 62.3% Seems like a mediocre SRPG, with a good combat system...Maybe a good Disagaea clone? Could of been made on the PS2. Not well-enjoyed by media Rent if you must get your SRPG fix.
Operation: Darkness 50.3% Quirky WW2 SRPG/Strategy game. Combat, at points, is interesting, as is the story line. Difficult to work with the camera, and very hard game to beat, thanks to unbalanced mechanics. Same as SF3...Rent if you must play an SRPG. Otherwise, may not be worth time.
         
Coming Soon:        
Infinite Undiscovery Sept 2nd Good open-world ARPG combat system, and tons of unique gameplay mechanics. Short, and filled with technical flaws. 18 Characters make some characters seem uninspired. Looking forward to this one. Looks like a must-play, despite 70.3% avg. from 3 reviews.
Zoids Assault Sept 9th Best SRPG of the Atlus trifecta of SF3, and O:D Not really saying much to be the best out of crappy SRPGs, eh? May be your best SRPG fix on the 360 this year.
The Last Remnant Nov. Actual S-E built JRPG...Good combat system, and interesting character development, progression, and acquisition. UE3-developed game. May suffer from technical flaws. Could be a better version of IU. Who knows? We'll see in November

I think that's it for now?

Generally, the 4 best RPGs are going to be the top 4 I listed. It depends on your JRPG preferences. By all means, get LO and ToV first, as they seem to be the best of the ATB and real-time JRPGs currently. I have both, and can vouch for how good they both are.

 

The Xbox 360 is 64bit, not 128bit!

(In processor terms, much like the Genesis was 16bit and the PSX\PS2 was 32bit)

In graphical BUS terms (like how the Atari Jaguar was classified as "64bit" it is 256bit!)...

 

But the "bit" of the GPU bus doesn't really mean much these days due to proprietory methods of "connecting" components etc).

 



Burgles on 01 September 2008

Auron I wouldn't bother getting one, you'll prolly just make up some tosh that you got RROD a few weeks after buying it :)