there next system or even a redesign of the 360 should look totally different so people wont associate it with rrod also the ps2 had a large failure rate at the beginning and it didn't hurt it at all in the long rung

I agree completely with Squilliam. 360 has treated me to some amazing games and looks to continue the trend for the rest of the generation. I will gladly purchase M$'s next console. Hell, look how many games of Halo 3 I have played(and that is not much compared to some).

Xbox 1 was a great piece of hardware, Xbox 360 was rushed which cause the RROD problems, yet i dont think MS are bad at hardware department, at the end of the day they have created powerfull equipment for great price, PS3 may have more features but price still holds it back.

And of course they will be in Console market next year, among Nintendo they are in second place at the moment, Xbox brand have established itself among gamers, with great library of quality titles (i think at the moment the best one), they got finally some kind off foothold in Japan, and they will greatly outsell Xbox. At the moment PS brand is the one that suffers most compared to previous generations.

I would prefer Sega over MS on the market, but Xbox is a great product.

Maybe your playstations could feel your disliking for the company who made them so they cracked under the pressure of not being liked :p

... what ?

Stop with this nonsense. The original Xbox had less failure rates than the PS2. Microsoft knows how to make hardware, they just didn't need to rush it out the door like they did to beat Sony to the punch. Get it through your head. The Xbox had quality hardware and it and still sucked because it lacked games, unlike the PS2 which had a army of amazing games and inferior hardware. The roles have been reversed this gen.

I expect to see MS next gen.... no thoughts on how well they will do though. If HALO 4 is a launch title like the rumors say then they should start off pretty well....

M$ Should get SONY to make their Hardware :D and @ STAGE, The game side is debatable, its down to preference

Its nintendo the one who doesnt know shit about hardware. A 21st century product sporting 20th century hardware aint really the smartest move now is it?

the xbox brand for games has progressed and in sales it has progressed, but in quality it has gone backwards, and nobody can say anythingelse about it. to do so would ever make then a blind fanboy, or seriously delutional take your pick.

the first xbox was very reliable very hardy and didnt scratch your disk and get rrod. the new xbox does. so if that is not going backwards i dont know what is and after this fumble with the 360 i would only trust the new console if a diff company came in and did the hardware for them.

took 3 generations to get it right? What do you mean. Yes, the PS2 has a small failure rate, about 12%, but no where near 360 percentage. The PS1 was a SUPER sturdy system, that even after a royal thrashing the thing just would not die. The slim PS2 work perfectly. The PS3 is just as good as the slim PS2 and PS1 in that department.

So that means there was only one incedent with faulty Sony hardware. The PS1 and PS3 success rate outnumbers the PS2's failure rate so in all Sony still can make great hardware.2~1

As for MS's Xbox, it was sturdy too, there were no hardware malfunctions that I know of. Then they rushed the 360 out the gate to get the jump on the market leader, sony. The system is crappily made above all else. That leaves MS with 1~1

Sony wins this one too I am afraid Squilliam....