@Bmaker: If someone calls your media hub as a toy just because you bought it as one, it's not the commenter to blame.
The vast majority of people who buy a Ferrari, are buying it as a toy, while people who buy Smarts aren't buying them as toys.
All the products can be split into two categories: toys and tools. Tools are what are used in productive purposes (necessarities) and toys as entertainment purposes (unnecessarities). So if buy a gun and use it shooting range, it's a toy, but if you use it survive, it's a tool.

Now that you mentioned how Sony keeps its old customers, it pretty bad thing to do with 3rd parties games. It's not Sony, it's the 3rd parties, who happened to think that Sony would be able to keep its existing audience. The reason that nearly the only games that seem to sell, is that they cater only the old audience. Somehow it was good, by your logic, that 3rd parties (Sony as you said) are rehashing their old IP:s, but Nintendo doing the same, is a bad thing. But when you look at the new IP:s that Nintendo has brought, you'll notice that there's quite a lot of them, such as Pikmin, "Wii series", Brain Training etc. Besides, this the mascot thing he was talking about. Sony has no mascot that could be identified after 30 years, which is strange, since Sony relies heavily in branding.

And the guy in the video wasn't saying that the game divisions would die because of HD, he said that Sony and M$ don't have other motivations to keep the divisions, but money. When they don't make money, it's the same for them to ditch the whole gaming. They love the gamers as long as they make Sony and M$ money.

@theprof: You apparently don't understand what Nintendo is all about. Granted that they have been very lucrative for the last 30 years, but they still do the exact same as 100 years ago; provide entertainment. Look, they are not the guy who makes theaters, they're Hollywood and always have been. What the past has taught them, is how to survive the bad times and manage their business. By making their own software and hardware, they're (nearly) protected from an industrywide crash, while Sony and M$ would do the Atari (with SMB supershow tune). They've been here for so long and experienced enough recessions, that they do know how to deal when the bad times come.

i./..don't think.. you understand... what i;m saying?
i'm not saying ninty is a bad company... i'm saying, the ninty way isn't the do or die way.
why don't people understand this.

I thought it was an interesting watch to be honest. Though I disagree with trying to make out video games to be just toys. That is backstepping, not moving forward. Gamers and game companies have fought for a long time to have the general public not see gaming as just for kids, or just toys. We are finally getting there, no reason to take a step backwards.

Gaming will be accepted as another entertainment medium in general, for all ages, it pretty much already is. The gaming industry takes in more money than the movie industry, do you really think movies would fare better if they were all made just for kids? Video games wouldn't either, though some companies could do a better job of targeting certain age categories.

The mascot and games for kids stuff about 360 and PS3 is a good point though, just a bit exagerated.

@theprof: No you didn't. You said that how lucrative Nintendo has became in the past decades shows how past doesn't matter. But the thing i was pointing at was, that essentially Nintendo is still the same company that made hanafuda cards. Their way of doing things is still the same. To provide entertainment. All their business ventures have revolved around entertainment (well, maybe the exeption of taxi company, but i'd guess it was supposed to take customers into Nintendos whorehouse).

Toys are not backwards. Anything that is meant to be played is defined as either a game or a toy. It's just the association people have with the word toy that makes you think it's backwards. A toy can be adult. Ever heard of the '80s phrase "He who dies with the most toys, wins,"? That meant things for adults, not just raiding FAO Schwartz.

Rofl. What you think you're paintball gun is ? haha

@b33r: But the thing is, that they are toys. Nothing more. Just as every other entertainment. Read my earlier posts in the thread where i explain it.

Yeah I just kind of skimmed the thread lightly after watching the video.

I suppose I should of said "for kids" instead of toys, I mean some people call there Ferrari a toy. Replace anywhere I said 'toys' with 'just for kids' then.