Nice bs, where do i champion GTs no damage ohh yahh no where.  Try arguing with out your spin/lies.  I Want damage but i want it done right, i dont want half ass'd crap like Forzas damage.

"The Real Driving Simulator" no where do thy say the real crashing simulator.  What they do is let you drive the most realistic handling and looking cars.

You act like forzas physics are better LMFAO, you really have no clue what you are arguing.

Damage for "race" cars was already confirmerd, mayeb know wtf you are talking about next time.   

 "Online? Forza had it all along" your doing what other then trolling ? he said its not evloving why you even replaying at something specificly directed at some one else ? 

 if it was real damage one crash would end your race.

i think thasts wht he means, do a 5 hour race just to have the computer crash into you in the last lap.  Sure bud no one would bitch about it.

No.

I love performance driving in real life and I insist on two things when driving a racing game:

Steering wheel

Damage modeling

Anything else and I'll treat as slightly above rubbish. Damage modeling in a game that tries hard to be a simulator is a requirement. I've played with damage modeling on all the racing sims I've played over the years. I'll never settle for anything less. I know that you can wreck your car and render it undrivable - that's part of the challenge. Seeing a 90-degree turn and knowing that by accelerating even faster because you can just bounce off the wall and continue racing and actually save time by doing so is also rubbish. Having other cars slam into you and make you lose positions is unfair, and rubbish, especially when such moves in real life would take both cars out of the race.

I complain about  the lack of damage because I expect this in a racing title, and it has nothing to do with being able to race without hitting walls. It has to do with sense of realism and immersion that the title can create. When nothing happens to my car after plowing it against 13 others in a lap, going on offroad excursions every other turn and slamming the tire barriers every now and then completely ruins the driving experience for me, because I no longer am driving 650bhp superexotics capable of accelerating rom 0-60mph in less than 4 seconds and reaching top speeds in excess of 330kph. I'm driving 650bhp bumper cars capable of accelerating rom 0-60mph in less than 4 seconds and reaching top speeds in excess of 330kph.

Look Blue3 Woof,

FYI, I don't play Forza 2 (or 1 for that matter), so you can take your Forza fanboy crap and sling it at someone else.

I'm talking about GT in particular. Having the cojones to bill themselves as the ultimate racing simulation is not just a stretch of the imagination, it's a blatant lie.

Fanboys act like Forzas fake bs damage somehowe makes bit better then GT, soory it does not. One has no damage the others damage is utter shiet, thats a joke.

fake bs damage >>> no damage for a so-called racing sim = that's the real joke

Nice bs, where do i champion GTs no damage ohh yahh no where. Try arguing with out your spin/lies. I Want damage but i want it done right, i dont want half ass'd crap like Forzas damage.

You're right - how can you possibly champion the lack of a feature that any racing simulation should have? So you prefer bumper cars to some semblance of damage in a racing sim? OK...

"The Real Driving Simulator" no where do thy say the real crashing simulator. What they do is let you drive the most realistic handling and looking cars.

Oh, boy, so the possibility of crashing doesn't exist in a real driving simulation? Or is it that Polyphony just feature bumper cars? And if you are going on realistic handling, I'd say crashing against a barrier at 320kph, bouncing off the wall and continuing driving as if nothing happened at all about as far away as a "realistic driving simulation" as you can get. Last time I checked, crashing at those speeds normally will have you placed in a coffin and buried 6 feet under.

Damage for "race" cars was already confirmerd, mayeb know wtf you are talking about next time.

Well, until I see it, you can take you WTF and stick it where the sun don't shine. I've also heard lots of fantastic and exciting stuff about Duke Nukem Forever, BTW.

"Online? Forza had it all along" your doing what other then trolling ? he said its not evloving why you even replaying at something specificly directed at some one else ?

You said: Damage for racing cars, in car view, online. Not evolving.

As far as I recall, Forza had this since v1.

Whats funny is woof thinks GT is a driving sim. Guess what, it never has been and looks like it never will be.

@CKMLB; yeah, I've played pokemon and I get the whole car collecting aspect of GT4. However, I wish it had online instead of 50 different versions of the Lancer Evo.

 look gballzack, take your crap to the wii forum.

if you never even plad Forza or Forza 2 why the helk are you arging here you troll. 

I guess you are too young to drive in real life, eh? Either that, or you're just not too observant.

It depends on the kind of crash. F1 cars frequently crash, say, on the first lap, and provided the damage isn't too extensive, the drivers make it back to the pits, get a new nose attachment and continue driving.

How many fender benders have you seen? Two cars crash, the drivers get on with their respective lawyers, and they continue driving on their way to work. 

I've never driven a 5-hour race in a game (not that many LeMans 24-hour simulations you know, and normally races in real life don't last more  than 1.5 hours) but I have had much worse than what you mention: I've had "mechanical failures" on my car one lap before the checkered flag. That's part of what I want in a sim. And no, I don't bitch about it. I get pissed off, but such is the nature of racing. In fact, I love it when developers actually have the option to enable mechanical failures, engine failures or tire blowouts because, you know, that is what happens in real racing, and that is what I expect from, well, you know, a "Real Driving Simulator"...

Please don't say Pokemon hasn't changed, because then I'll have to argue with you and I don't want to do that. 

Let's just leave it at this:  It's incredibly stupid to dismiss a game entirely before it's released.  You can say "that's a feature I would have liked to have in my game." or "I personally only play games that have so and so." but don't tell other people they shouldn't like the game.

Personally, I like to have damage in my driving games, but I'm not willing to write of a game just because it doesn't have it yet.  I'll continue to pay close attention to GT and keep an eye on it with interest, as I truly enjoy the GT series.  However, just as I am not going to write it off completely, I'm not going to pretend that I'm not somewhat disappointed by the exclusion.

Blue3 Woof Troll, 

I have played Forza therefore I can opine as much as I want. I've also played the "very nicely animated and realistic-looking but hideous by racing sim standards GT". I don't play it because I have far better racing simulations I can play. What's your excuse for playing GT?

And how about replying to my posts instead of calling me another troll, you troll?