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windbane on 03 August 2008
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from.  If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear.  Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld.  Another RPG that didn't translate to console?  Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game.  No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up.  As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 



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Riachu on 03 August 2008
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from. If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear. Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld. Another RPG that didn't translate to console? Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game. No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up. As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 

Most high profile WRPGs and JRPGs will be on 360 since Microsoft want to diversify the game library

 



 

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sc94597 on 03 August 2008
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from.  If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear.  Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld.  Another RPG that didn't translate to console?  Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game.  No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up.  As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 

If an RPG has to have a story or a good one then I guess anything pre-snes isn't any rpg.

As for monster hunter, I heard that the PS2 games are great aswell so we know that MH3 could be good, and seeing as the series started on home consoles unlike pokemon it has a good chance.

Rune Factory Fronteir is coming to the wii. 

What is your defition of "High Profile"?

Edit: Also we have been seeing a steady rise in Wii Jrpg support while we have been seeing a decline in that of the PS3 Jrpg support. I expect big Jrpgs from sony though.

 



NJ5 on 03 August 2008

Sony doesn't have money to pay for JRPGs, as they have spent a lot on hardware production. In other words, they got overbid by Microsoft.



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windbane on 03 August 2008
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from. If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear. Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld. Another RPG that didn't translate to console? Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game. No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up. As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 

If an RPG has to have a story or a good one then I guess anything pre-snes isn't any rpg.

As for monster hunter, I heard that the PS2 games are great aswell so we know that MH3 could be good, and seeing as the series started on home consoles unlike pokemon it has a good chance.

Rune Factory Fronteir is coming to the wii.

What is your defition of "High Profile"?

Edit: Also we have been seeing a steady rise in Wii Jrpg support while we have been seeing a decline in that of the PS3 Jrpg support. I expect big Jrpgs from sony though.

 

 

A lot of RPGs had stories before SNES...huh? What RPG do you know of doesn't have a story? We clearly have different views on what we are discussing, heh.

High profile to me means pushing a combination of visuals, sound, story, gameplay, and eveyrthing else associated with videogames.  The Wii has no innate advantage for RPGs, so I'd rather them not even be there.

I'll still play games such as My Life as a King and others, though, but that one is because I'm a sucker for FF.  At least it's an interesting concept (if not exactly an RPG to get off-topic).



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Riachu on 03 August 2008
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from. If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear. Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld. Another RPG that didn't translate to console? Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game. No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up. As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 

If an RPG has to have a story or a good one then I guess anything pre-snes isn't any rpg.

As for monster hunter, I heard that the PS2 games are great aswell so we know that MH3 could be good, and seeing as the series started on home consoles unlike pokemon it has a good chance.

Rune Factory Fronteir is coming to the wii.

What is your defition of "High Profile"?

Edit: Also we have been seeing a steady rise in Wii Jrpg support while we have been seeing a decline in that of the PS3 Jrpg support. I expect big Jrpgs from sony though.

 

It's not that JRPGs need a story to be good.  It's just that a good story with a great battle system can make a JRPG better than a JRPG with a great batte system but weak story.  Unfortunately, some people hate JRPGs because the developers are still overusing the save the world story.   Those JRPG developers need to hire better writers.  If they're still using the same basic story, atleast make it interesting.  Another problem is that many of them have poor writing but that could just be because of localizations.  But come on, I know localizing a game is hard but a lot of the times, it seems like they aren't even trying.

 



 

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sc94597 on 03 August 2008

@Windbane If you have ever played the first 3 final fantasies you would know that the story is pretty much nonexistent or they are all the same story(Find the crystals).

I don't know how sound, story, or gameplay couldn't be done on the wii. As for graphics, obviously. For turn based rpgs there isn't much other than graphics that the HD consoles could add. For Action Rpgs then the wiimote could be utilized pretty well.



sc94597 on 03 August 2008
Riachu said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from. If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear. Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld. Another RPG that didn't translate to console? Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game. No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up. As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 

If an RPG has to have a story or a good one then I guess anything pre-snes isn't any rpg.

As for monster hunter, I heard that the PS2 games are great aswell so we know that MH3 could be good, and seeing as the series started on home consoles unlike pokemon it has a good chance.

Rune Factory Fronteir is coming to the wii.

What is your defition of "High Profile"?

Edit: Also we have been seeing a steady rise in Wii Jrpg support while we have been seeing a decline in that of the PS3 Jrpg support. I expect big Jrpgs from sony though.

 

It's not that JRPGs need a story to be good.  It's just that a good story with a great battle system can make a JRPG better than a JRPG with a great batte system but weak story.  Unfortunately, some people hate JRPGs because the developers are still overusing the save the world story.   Those JRPG developers need to hire better writers.  If they're still using the same basic story, atleast make it interesting.  Another problem is that many of them have poor writing but that could just be because of localizations.  But come on, I know localizing a game is hard but a lot of the times, it seems like they aren't even trying.

 

No he is saying Chocobo Dungeon isn't an Rpg because there isn't much of a story.

 



Riachu on 03 August 2008
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from. If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear. Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld. Another RPG that didn't translate to console? Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game. No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up. As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 

If an RPG has to have a story or a good one then I guess anything pre-snes isn't any rpg.

As for monster hunter, I heard that the PS2 games are great aswell so we know that MH3 could be good, and seeing as the series started on home consoles unlike pokemon it has a good chance.

Rune Factory Fronteir is coming to the wii.

What is your defition of "High Profile"?

Edit: Also we have been seeing a steady rise in Wii Jrpg support while we have been seeing a decline in that of the PS3 Jrpg support. I expect big Jrpgs from sony though.

 

 

A lot of RPGs had stories before SNES...huh? What RPG do you know of doesn't have a story? We clearly have different views on what we are discussing, heh.

High profile to me means pushing a combination of visuals, sound, story, gameplay, and eveyrthing else associated with videogames. The Wii has no innate advantage for RPGs, so I'd rather them not even be there.

I'll still play games such as My Life as a King and others, though, but that one is because I'm a sucker for FF. At least it's an interesting concept (if not exactly an RPG to get off-topic).

I thought 'high profile' meant that the game has a decent amount of hype i.e. Lost Odyssey, Final Fantasy XIII, Infinite Undiscovery, Star Ocean The Last Hope

 



 

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Riachu on 03 August 2008
sc94597 said:
Riachu said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
@windbane Folklore is an Action-Adventure. As for the future Wii rpgs. Oh and looking at the average FFF:CD is more above average than decent.

FFCC,Monster Hunter, Tales of (2 titles btw), Rune Factory, and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden are all proving series. They and the rest of the games are also from proven developers. So I don't see your point.

 

I'm glad I'm not so picky on what genre a game is, or what country it comes from. If you talk games that people consider "RPG," the advantage is clear. Chocobo's dungeon isn't a "JRPG" either, considering most of those feature plots.

As of now, it's a wash.

Monster Hunter was a hit...on a handheld. Another RPG that didn't translate to console? Pokemon.

Rune Factory is a DS game. No one is arguing that system lacks RPGs.

Oboro Muramasa Youtouden has a decent track record with Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire, both around 80%.

 

Regardless, those are all future titles, so we'll see how they end up. As someone that has both consoles, I don't expect high profile RPGs going to Wii.

 

If an RPG has to have a story or a good one then I guess anything pre-snes isn't any rpg.

As for monster hunter, I heard that the PS2 games are great aswell so we know that MH3 could be good, and seeing as the series started on home consoles unlike pokemon it has a good chance.

Rune Factory Fronteir is coming to the wii.

What is your defition of "High Profile"?

Edit: Also we have been seeing a steady rise in Wii Jrpg support while we have been seeing a decline in that of the PS3 Jrpg support. I expect big Jrpgs from sony though.

 

It's not that JRPGs need a story to be good. It's just that a good story with a great battle system can make a JRPG better than a JRPG with a great batte system but weak story. Unfortunately, some people hate JRPGs because the developers are still overusing the save the world story. Those JRPG developers need to hire better writers. If they're still using the same basic story, atleast make it interesting. Another problem is that many of them have poor writing but that could just be because of localizations. But come on, I know localizing a game is hard but a lot of the times, it seems like they aren't even trying.

 

No he is saying Chocobo Dungeon isn't an Rpg because there isn't much of a story.

 

So what?  Many don't consider JRPGs in general to be RPGs just because they have little to no role playing.  I was pointing out the snags that make some people hate JRPGs

 



 

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