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dib8rman on 28 July 2008
pakidan101 said:
axumblade said:
My view on this is simple. Playstation knows they're not getting anywhere with competing against Microsoft. There's too many people that already have a 360 that aren't wanting to jump ship. They also know that Microsoft is either shelling out money or good at convincing companies to go into a platform that has sold more. So basically, Sony is talking about their exclusives because they know Microsoft can't buy those.

 

While I do agree with you, doesn't that strategy seem a bit.....nostalgic? Didn't Nintendo pretty much adopted that kind of strategy during the N64 and Gamecube days? That didn't seem to go too well....

 

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Smashchu2 on 28 July 2008

Can someone just put him out of his misery.



makingmusic476 on 28 July 2008
pakidan101 said:
axumblade said:
My view on this is simple. Playstation knows they're not getting anywhere with competing against Microsoft. There's too many people that already have a 360 that aren't wanting to jump ship. They also know that Microsoft is either shelling out money or good at convincing companies to go into a platform that has sold more. So basically, Sony is talking about their exclusives because they know Microsoft can't buy those.

 

While I do agree with you, doesn't that strategy seem a bit.....nostalgic? Didn't Nintendo pretty much adopted that kind of strategy during the N64 and Gamecube days? That didn't seem to go too well....

 

There's a difference.  In the N64/GC days, Nintendo had almost no 3rd party support at all.  They relied almost solely on their own internal titles.  With the ps3, Sony still has plenty of 3rd party support in the form of multiplats, and it's up to the 1st party titles to simply differentiate their console from the 360.



MANUELF on 28 July 2008
Munkeh111 said:
pakidan101 said:
Munkeh111 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
As far as first party products, for me it goes :

Nintendo >>>>>>>>Sony>>Microsoft

So Sony is hardly "unrivalled" in that category.

1. Can you name a Nintendo game coming to the Wii in the upcoming future, there are only a couple, and I was not really impressed with them. Of course they have other games under wraps, but Sony do too. Sony make more games than Nintendo, even if 2. they dont quite reach the same quality

 

 

Sorry to single you out Munkeh111, but I have to raise a couple of issues on that comment.

 

1. You are right, none of us gamers really know what is coming up in the future when it comes to Nintendo first-party games. But do we really need to know? We already received a Zelda game (another is coming up, as promised by Miyamoto), we had Mario Galaxy (another promised to come as well), Metroid Prime 3, Fire Emblem, SSBB, Mario Kart Wii, etc. etc. (don't want to make a list like another fanboy) and we have Animal Crossing coming soon......do we really need to start questioning if they are coming up with games in the future these days? I say we should just sit back, relax, and play the games.

2. Though everyone has their own opinion on what is quality or not, if you are saying that Sony makes lesser quality of games than Nintendo does, yet aren't impressed with Nintendo games, does that mean you don't like Sony games either? Anyways, the point is that sales of Nintendo games have always indicated that there are many, many consumers that are impressed with their lineup, just like they are impressed with Sony's lineup.

 

Again, sorry for singling you out like that.

1. people are looking at holiday line-ups, and Nintendo's is not looking impressive, and sony also have a large back catalogue, and if you are comparing the Wii with the PS3 that does help. Anyway, you cannot just look in the past, and they still have to keep the games coming, and Sony make more games. There are at least 4-5 great PS3 1st party games each year, and I dont think that Nintendo can keep up that pace

2. I was more thinking of SMG and SSBB which I have no interest in, but do great with critics and fans, though I would personally take the Sony offering above nintendo

 

1.- The Nintendo line-up is great, but look like is not your cup of tea.

2.- That is your opinion.

 



pakidan101 on 28 July 2008
makingmusic476 said:
pakidan101 said:
axumblade said:
My view on this is simple. Playstation knows they're not getting anywhere with competing against Microsoft. There's too many people that already have a 360 that aren't wanting to jump ship. They also know that Microsoft is either shelling out money or good at convincing companies to go into a platform that has sold more. So basically, Sony is talking about their exclusives because they know Microsoft can't buy those.

 

While I do agree with you, doesn't that strategy seem a bit.....nostalgic? Didn't Nintendo pretty much adopted that kind of strategy during the N64 and Gamecube days? That didn't seem to go too well....

 

There's a difference.  In the N64/GC days, Nintendo had almost no 3rd party support at all.  They relied almost solely on their own internal titles.  With the ps3, Sony still has plenty of 3rd party support in the form of multiplats, and it's up to the 1st party titles to simply differentiate their console from the 360.

 

Yeah that is true. However, there is a problem with that.....sadly it is the price. Yes, the PS3 share most of their 3rd party games with the 360 (now including FFXIII) except for a few exclusives. But to say that you are going to differentiate yourself with first-party games is a dangerous territory for them because their system is already that much higher than the 360.

 

Except for dedicated gamers who want all of the experiences or fans of a certaing gaming company, it is hard to convince people that your system is better when the opposing company has the same multiplats, the same genre exclusives but it is cheaper.

 

For example, for every Killzone 2 and Resistance 2, there is a Halo 3 and Gears of War 1, and 2. For every Ratchet and Clank and LBP, there is a Banjo Kazooie and Viva Pinata. Know where I am going with this?

 

Even though I am gonna get my PS3 someday (once I have the time), it seems like a very difficult task for Sony to differentiate itself  from the 360 AND still be inticing at the same time. That is just my two cents though...



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makingmusic476 on 28 July 2008
pakidan101 said:
Munkeh111 said:
pakidan101 said:
Munkeh111 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
As far as first party products, for me it goes :

Nintendo >>>>>>>>Sony>>Microsoft

So Sony is hardly "unrivalled" in that category.

1. Can you name a Nintendo game coming to the Wii in the upcoming future, there are only a couple, and I was not really impressed with them. Of course they have other games under wraps, but Sony do too. Sony make more games than Nintendo, even if 2. they dont quite reach the same quality

 

 

Sorry to single you out Munkeh111, but I have to raise a couple of issues on that comment.

 

1. You are right, none of us gamers really know what is coming up in the future when it comes to Nintendo first-party games. But do we really need to know? We already received a Zelda game (another is coming up, as promised by Miyamoto), we had Mario Galaxy (another promised to come as well), Metroid Prime 3, Fire Emblem, SSBB, Mario Kart Wii, etc. etc. (don't want to make a list like another fanboy) and we have Animal Crossing coming soon......do we really need to start questioning if they are coming up with games in the future these days? I say we should just sit back, relax, and play the games.

2. Though everyone has their own opinion on what is quality or not, if you are saying that Sony makes lesser quality of games than Nintendo does, yet aren't impressed with Nintendo games, does that mean you don't like Sony games either? Anyways, the point is that sales of Nintendo games have always indicated that there are many, many consumers that are impressed with their lineup, just like they are impressed with Sony's lineup.

 

Again, sorry for singling you out like that.

1. people are looking at holiday line-ups, and Nintendo's is not looking impressive, and sony also have a large back catalogue, and if you are comparing the Wii with the PS3 that does help. Anyway, you cannot just look in the past, and they still have to keep the games coming, and Sony make more games. There are at least 4-5 great PS3 1st party games each year, and I dont think that Nintendo can keep up that pace

2. I was more thinking of SMG and SSBB which I have no interest in, but do great with critics and fans, though I would personally take the Sony offering above nintendo

 

 

1. Not to sound as an offensive person, but could you tell me what Sony made last year and this coming year as a first-person game? I don't seem to quite remember them as I thought I would.

 

2. That's alright, everybody gots their own taste :)

 

By the end of this year, Sony will have released these first party titles for the year:

  • Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
  • Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds
  • MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
  • Siren: Blood Curse
  • Socom: Confrontation
  • Afrika
  • MLB '08: The Show
  • NBA '09
  • SingStar
  • Buzz: Quiz TV

And these second party titles:

  • LittleBigPlanet
  • Resistance 2

In terms of 1st/2nd party support for home consoles, Sony is definitely greater than Nintendo from a sheer numerical standpoint (handhelds are another matter).  However, I'd have to say that Nintendo is better from a quality standpoint.  Zelda and Mario are certainly the best of the best in their genres.



Rath on 28 July 2008
makingmusic476 said:

 

By the end of this year, Sony will have released these first party titles for the year:

  • Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
  • Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds
  • MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
  • Siren: Blood Curse
  • Socom: Confrontation
  • Afrika
  • MLB '08: The Show
  • NBA '09
  • SingStar
  • Buzz: Quiz TV

And these second party titles:

  • LittleBigPlanet
  • Resistance 2

In terms of 1st/2nd party support for home consoles, Sony is definitely greater than Nintendo from a sheer numerical standpoint (handhelds are another matter).  However, I'd have to say that Nintendo is better from a quality standpoint.  Zelda and Mario are certainly the best of the best in their genres.

There is also another measurment which is overall sales from each, I think Nintendo usually dominates that as well.

 



kirby007 on 28 July 2008

I would say the same....



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Pk9394 on 28 July 2008

I bet not one of those exclusive can beat Wii Fit's sale number. Sony can have the most appealing list to core gamers or even its all AAA quality but at the end of the day what counts the most is who bring home the most $$$. How many game on that list can actually break 3 million mark?? while a lot of nintendo's game break 5 millions mark without a sweat.



Skeeuk on 28 July 2008

playstation internal studios have the best games upcoming. far better than 360wii offerings no wii games upcoming interest me and only gears2 interst me on 360 a pre owned copy at that! the rest of my 2008 games will be bought all on ps3, i predict huge sales for ps3 over the xmas 2008 period.



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