i dont think it will do that
| blazinhead89 said: Whats to say the people who bought Wii/360 wont buy a PS3 once the price is in their range? |
I have a Wii60 now, and with my DS and PSP as well, I have more than enough games. For this reason, my price range is $150-$200 for a PS3 with blu ray and full BC, and $100 for a PS3 without BC and with Blu Ray.
PS360's libraries overlap so much, I don't see why someone would own both. It makes more sense to own a Wii and something else than to own both HD consoles.
| CrazzyMan said: 1) Wii doesn`t compete with PS3, only with PS2. PS3 is HD. Last gen: PS2 - GC - xbox - all 3 consoles were in SAME category, while this gen: PS3/x360 - HD, Wii - SD+non-gamers. SO, why not get Wii+PS3, since they are DIFFERENT? IF you say, that GRAPHICS doesn`t matter to Casual gamer, THEN why people moved from PSone to PS2? x360 is losing to PS3 every week. 2) Japan is dead for HD gaming. Yet, MGS4 sell first week as good as previous iterations. Japan just need more PS3 games. Most new PS3 games already pass 100k on first week sales, this is a good sign.3) Many other 3 mln. seller are coming later this year. 4) Massive movement to Wii? LoL. WHY would (85 mln. PS2 owners) buy Wii????? WHAT are reasons??? Wii get sales from casual NON-gamers + Nintendo fans. PS3 can`t be used as Blu-ray player in a Family??? Anyway, time will show, who was right. And i think, by the end of 2008 fiscal year, you gonna change your mind about ps3.) |
Are you a crazy person or what? Oh just saw your name. You are a crazy person.
When you play a video game do you play it or you play the resolution. Suggesting that because one console is HD and another is not is one of the most ridiculous thing a human being could say.
And people didn't move from PS1 to PS2. They moved because they wanted to play the sequels to the games they had played on PS1. With PS3 that advantage is gone. Games that were exclusively on PS1 and PS2 are now on 360.
The thing that amazes me about Sony fans is that PS1 wasn't as powerful as N64 and PS2 was weaker than Gamecube and Xbox. Now that Sony decided to push graphics it has now become the most amazing thing in the world. The truth of the matter is that if Sony had released the Wii and Nintendo the super powerful computer all the Sony fans shouting about graphics would have been shouting about motion control instead and saying graphics don't matter. I think is a shame when a person loves a company so much that they go as far as lying to themselves.
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Ok Crazzy explain me this.... If the Wii has not converted any old PS2 owners, why have the sales of current Gen consoles in America not managed to surpass what the previous gen consoles did in the same timeframe.
You would have thought that as there are so many new gamers (if there are no PS2 owners with Wiis, but all GC owners now have it, that means nearly 10 million new gamers already) that sales would have far exceeded what they did last gen.
You can't give me any BS about "PS2 still selling" because the PS1 did exactly the same at the beginning of 6th Gen. (In America PS1 did better than the PS2 does now)
Face it, So far, Nintendo has not enticed a massive number of "new gamers" at all, My guess would be around 2-3 million (about 10%).
The Wii userbase will likely be made up of:
AT LEAST 60% will have owned a PS2 (most of those will be PS2 only)
AT LEAST 20% will not have owned a PS2, but will have owned GC/XB/DC (most of those will at least have a GC)
AT MOST 20% will not have had a 6th gen console, but at least a quarter of those will at least have had a console before hand (5th gen or earlier) or are a PC gamer as well)
=)=)=)=)

| CrazzyMan said: 1) ps3 is only on a way to get 299$/euro price. What makes you think, that at this price ps3 won`t sell like crazy? Logic, somethin you are not familiar with. 2) FFXIII is still EXCLUSIVE in Japan. Forza 2 DOES NOT exist in Japan. Europe will chose GT5 over Forza 3 any day. So will and Japan. http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=Others&game1=Forza+Motorsport+2+-+X360®2=Others&game2=Gran+Turismo+5+Prologue+-+PS3®3=All&game3=&weeks=62 and THIS is without ONLINE sales. Japan has already decided they don't want the PS3. 3) MGS4 already give a boost in ps3 sales and will continue with 80GB bundles. Not nearly enough to get it to 150M 4) Since Wii launch ~18 mln. PS2 and ~15 mln. PS3 were sold. While only ~30 mln. Wii. Wii is getting it`s userbase FROM GC owners and casual NON-gamers most. Very FEW ps2 owners moved to Wii. You've said this so much it's lost all meaning. It's been proven false so many times we're tired of hearing it. |
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CrazzyMan said: Cause the games stop coming and there was hype for PS2, now the hype is for Wii. You can't have missed that. Japan is dead for HD gaming. Yet, MGS4 sell first week as good as previous iterations. Japan just need more PS3 games. Most new PS3 games already pass 100k on first week sales, this is a good sign.MGS4 boosted PS3 sales very temporarily and only caused about 100.000 extra PS3's to be sold. Certainly not bad, but nothing the size PS3 needs to stay in the game in Japan. Certainly if you keep in mind that it was one of the 3 major aces in Sony's hand. Now only two are left, and then? I say it again: at this level PS3 needs 100 weeks to sell an additional million. 3) Many other 3 mln. seller are coming later this year. Yeah, but how many systems will it move. Sure Resistance will sell very well, but the fanbase is already on the PS3 (same for Motorstorm). Real systems sellers are very scarce on PS3. GT5 is 2010, God of War III maybe 2009 and that's about it for the real system sellers. And FF13 will certainly move maybe a million PS3's in Japan, but by then Wii will be over 7 million ahead. 4) Massive movement to Wii? LoL. WHY would (85 mln. PS2 owners) buy Wii????? WHAT are reasons??? Wii get sales from casual NON-gamers + Nintendo fans. I guess you have been living on Mars for a while. I'm not even going to explain it. You're on a sales site, you can check it yourself. PS3 can`t be used as Blu-ray player in a Family??? Anyway, time will show, who was right. And i think, by the end of 2008 fiscal year, you gonna change your mind about ps3.) So please, what's your prediction? Mine is even more positive then Sony's own projection. They have 10 million PS3's for this fiscal year, I say 12 million. |
It is possible if they get the price down to 200.
Sales predictions end of 08' (2008-7-27)
PS3 to surpass X360 WW sales by Q2 2009
@POOKEE. Does the date in your sig (2008-7-27) refer to when you made your prediction?
If so then I have to ask why the Wii is about to sell at PS3 levels for the rest of the year?

Too much Sonyhaters here.))
Anyway, Wii userbase advantage actually has NO advantage for Core games, Tales of vesperia with MUCH bigger userbase bombed with lower numbers then GC iteration.
SMG - also only did 100k more in Japan, then SMS on GC, with 2,5 mln. userbase advantage.
Wii is hyped only in Fanboys mind. E3 nintendo show was a LETDOWN.
PS3 is having Exclusive PS3 games that coming till the end of spring 2009(atleast that are announced to come):
1. Resistance 2 - FPS
2. Little Big Planet - Inovation/Platform
3. Socom Confrontation - TPS
4. Afrika - Relaxing
5. Valkyria Chronicles - TRPG
6. Motorstorm:Pacific Rift - Racing
7. Naruto: Ultimate Storm - Fighting/Adventure
8. Disgaea 3 - TRPG
9. Siren New Translation - Horror
10. Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty - Platform
11. Killzone 2 - FPS
12. Infamous - Sandbox
13. Jakuza 3(japan) - Sandbox
14. White Knight Chronicles - JRPG
15. Tekken 6 - Figthing
16. M.A.G. - MMO TPS
17. God of War 3 - Slasher
18. Cross Edge - JRPG
19. Way of the Samurai 3 - Slasher
Most of these games will easy cross 3 mln. barrier, other have very high chances. Overall, these games WILL boost PS3 sales by A LOT.
ANyway, all doubters and haters will be owned later this year.)
Just like PS3 started outselling x360 since december 2007 or like selling 9 mln. by the end of 2007, when haters predicted 6-7 mln. =))
And about predictions, i need to see shipped data for PS3.)
Console Dec 07' Mar 08' Jun 08'
Nintendo 20.13 24.45 TBA
VGchartz 19.19 23.38 28.56
Difference 0,94 1.07 TBA
Xbox 360 17.70 19.00 20.3
VGchartz 15.84 17.66 19.48
Difference 1.86 1.34 0.82
Sony PS3 10.49 12.81 TBA
VGchartz 8.87 11.44 13.97
Difference 1.62 1.37 TBA
And MGS4 is still on track to 7 mln. sold by the end of the year. ;)
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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.
1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.
PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far
^None of that explained anything Crazzy... Presumably you have no answer for my post (go up 2 of my posts... the long one beginning with "Crazzy Ken...")
All you have done is list more games. No's 1 and 17 are the only ones that are almost a given for 3 million.
2,3,6 and 11 I am doubtful, unless they are bundled.
8, 13 and 15: I would have to check old versions sales but I doubt any of these will get near 3 mil.
4, 5, 7, 9, 14 and 16 are a plain 'No'
12, 18 and 19 I haven't heard of, so another no for them.
And 10 is a PSN right?, so I have no idea and we will likely never find out... even so I am pretty sure it's a no... it may be cheaper if it's on PSN, but it is also shorter and limited to those willing (and capable) of buying online.
