Ok, so you ask a question, then get defensive when the person answers it? I never said or even hinted that you were an idiot. Chill.

I never got upset, Holy blow out of proprtion :)

It's hard to tell the way someone means something in text I guess.

Picture a smile on my face in that last post and you'll get a different perspective.

 Wii is on pace to hit 10 Million units in a year, which is where PS2 was same time in its cycle. There isn't a Nintendo system, not legacy, not new, not handheld, that has approached PSX, let alone PS2, in units sold. Take even all Gameboy Advance (GBA, GBA SP, Micro) combined and it doesn't touch PS1.  Forget about PS2; it almost doubles GBA. And, we're talking a $99 handheld vs. a ~$200 console (launch prices).

Now, let's look at sales growth compared to history. You're willing to wager that in the Wii's lifetime, it will DOUBLE sales of any Playstation (1 or 2). You believe Wii to be a cultural phenomenon on the scale of NES. Well, aside form the fact the the NES sold 45 million units LESS than the PS1, you're going to now declare that Wii will QUADRUPLE NES sales? 

 Put it in this perspective: For Nintendo to double the PS2 in units sold, it will need to sell 240 million units. That will be a feat I'd love to see. I'll write that out in numerals:

 240,000,000

 Let's further tempt fate and say you meant the DS will sell 240 million units. Okay, well, looking at lifespan, the DS debuted in 2004. The DS and it's newest iteration, DS Lite, have been on the market for 3 years now and combined sales for both units year-to-date has been around 45 Million units. By comparison, the PS2 debuted in 2000, and three years into PS2 lifespan, the console sold ~53 million units. So, in 4 more years, to reach the same age as the PS2, you expect the DS to sell 200,000,000 more units. You really think there are that many people in woodworks that will buy that DS in that many numbers in the next 4 years? Pretty significant number.

I bought the NES, first-gen Gameboy (with Tetris), and the SNES. And, I can tell you, that it would be a very tall order for Nintendo to reach 240,000,000 units of any one console or handheld. Not impossible, but a very tall order.

Lol... GB And GBC?!

Gameboy classic sold 70 million units, GBC sold  50million. Combined, sure, they reach PS2 sales overall, but remember that GBC debut almost 10 years after the Gameboy, so that's like saying you can combine PS1 and PS2 sales. 

You will learn like they all do.

Stop underestimating this system. So many are surprised by this success and how it never seems to subside and coast off to "normal ranges". I am not. It is because I saw its potential beforehand. All it's doing is just completing the checklist I long mentally put together. I'm just checking down the list on each achievement I saw it fulfilling long ago.

Um I'm not sure if you noticed this but Wii's about to sell 10 million in little over half a year (get ready for July) so no PS2 and Wii are not running on the same levels. I think a chart on this site shows that Wii's trending higher HIGHER than the PS2.

It's about the audience Wii can reach. Atari made the market. NES expanded the market. The PlayStations expanded the market further. The Wii will HIGHLY expand the market even further.

Not only will I tell you that the Wii will double PS2 sales but I will tell you that Wii will double PS2 sales EASILY.

That's right I said it. At WORST case scenario Wii will double the PS2's sales. That's WORSE case scenario. Best case is frankly hard to believe because I guarantee you there has never been a system like this before and even my wildest dreams on how it fulfills its potential may fall short. I'm dead serious.

This is what they called it: A revolution. It has changed how the game is played. All the rules have been rewritten. It will become a cultural force beyond what NES accomplished which is saying a hell of a lot. Not just a hit selling system. A cultural force. There's a difference.

240,000,000 worldwide is child's play for this system, I guarantee you.

You may think I'm blindly shooting at the moon and so do many others. But I will be here months from now saying the same thing and slowly but surely you will find yourself agreeing with me.

Wii and DS will go on to be the greatest selling console and handheld in videogame history. Bar none.

Doubt the WiiDS Phenomenon if you will. All I can tell you is the 2006-2007 period is just the warm up.

Baby BELIEVE me you ain't seen NOTHING yet.

VGChartz Official Idiot as deemed by the great Christopher_G2,

John Lucas

Lol. John Lucas as gone off the deep end even more. When his world comes crashing down, it'll be fun.

John, you are the official VGChartz idiot. Even the PS3fans aren't as dumb as you.

Better yet, why don't you even attempt the prediction league, or are you worried that you'd show yourself because the PL takes some sort of remote intelligence in predicting games?

Yep. You bet.

And Nintendo is going to manufacture these 10 million Wiis in a magic factory that's run by magic elves just outside the North Pole. And the foreman is going to be jolly, bearded, and wearing red.

I must say a very intressting post, because when the Wii fans started to compare the Wii with the DS the High Definition crowd started to scream that it was two different market. I can't remeber that you spoked up that the market was the same then, have you changed you mind?

Other than that the Lucas is as always a little bit to much optimistic, just as those sony fans that is screaming that the Wii will die in 2009.

@muh...whatever

The DS has a good chance to hit 100 million and more. It is on its 3rd year now, and have a good chanse to reach somewhere between 50-60 million sold consols this year. If it can hit 6 years of life time as Nintendos main handheld and then another year as the second a total of 120 millions shouldn't be impossible. So Nintendo can produce products that can reach 100 million +. Of course if the Wii should hit the same level of succes is depending on demand from the crowd.

I'll see you all at the end of year.

I love the disbelief. I absolutely love it. I put my prediction on end year sales already. Did it months ago. So that undoes that theory. Yes in the league.

Rocketpig, something you must know. Where there's money to be made product will be produced. Nintendo's about that money. Always has been, always will be. This is why a company with a worldwide staff of 3000 is able to make the top ten of Japanese companies right next to multifaceted Sony and above the world's largest consumer electronic maker, Matsushita. They're efficient and well-run and are dedicated to profit. Lossleading is a foreign concept to them. They will make the product and build supply in order to max out potential sales. Even so they'll still fall short because this demand is unbelievable but they will increase.

Did you see NES being able to sell 61 million in the 30 million selling Atari era?

Did you see the Playstations selling 100+ million in the 50+ million NES/SNES era?

Of course you didn't.

History is littered with those who had no vision and the ones who were able to see beyond their times.

At the end I'll be smiling.

John Lucas