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Kasz216 said:

I stopped reading at "Does anybody still play Nitnendogs."

Doesn't nintendogs still chart?

Nintendogs is like... one of the few games from 2005 that anybody still buys let alone plays.

 

Nintendogs sold 75,000 copies last week, in the middle of the summer, 3 years after it came out. It typically sells 50-100k any given week.

I understand this guy's frustration, but I think it's misguided. I personally love these games, I'm really looking forward to Wii Sports 2, so I'm not complaining, but this is the first time I see the complaints.

Long tim Nintendo fans have found a truce with Nintendo: the core gamers get Twilight Princess, while "they" get Wii Sports. The core gamer gets Metroid Prime 3, while "they" get Wii Play and Mario Party. The core gamer gets Galaxy, while "they" get Wii Fit.


And this E3, the casual gamer gets Wii Sports 2 and Wii Music while "traditional" gamers get... what, Animal Crossing? I think it's fair to say that doesn't appeal much to 24 year old males, and I'd argue it's a casual game with some core appeal, not vice versa.


Again, personally, I'm fine. I love Wii Sports, it's my favorite game of the generation -- but I do see why others might be miffed.



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SmokedHostage said:
I think this is the 20th topic Vaio posted bashing Ninty today.

So he's been slumming it today. Give the guy a break: he's no troll.

On topic, this article's got quite a few problems. First, Wii Sports and Wii Play (the "tech demoes" alluded to) still have some of the highest playtime on the system, according to Nintendo's user data, which rather defeats the argument that they're fluff that no one keeps playing. Second, it's hard to say you're a "rabid fan(...) of anything that pushes our hobby closer to the ever-lucrative goal of mainstream acceptance" and then bash the games that are doing it in the next sentence. Yes, he tries to address that concern, but since the attempt boils down to "no one plays Wii Sports for long" (see above) I'd have to say I'm not impressed. And while I'll leave the other flaws to you guys, so as to not hog all the fun, I don't recall the Seal of Quality meaning the game is fantastic: it just meant you could pop it into your system and it would work. Does he really want to lower standards by that much again?



Kasz216 said:

I stopped reading at "Does anybody still play Nitnendogs."

 

 I ask to the author anybody still play a "hardcore" game after beat it?



Bodhesatva said:
Kasz216 said:

I stopped reading at "Does anybody still play Nitnendogs."

Doesn't nintendogs still chart?

Nintendogs is like... one of the few games from 2005 that anybody still buys let alone plays.

 

Nintendogs sold 75,000 copies last week, in the middle of the summer, 3 years after it came out. It typically sells 50-100k any given week.

I understand this guy's frustration, but I think it's misguided. I personally love these games, I'm really looking forward to Wii Sports 2, so I'm not complaining, but this is the first time I see the complaints.

Long tim Nintendo fans have found a truce with Nintendo: the core gamers get Twilight Princess, while "they" get Wii Sports. The core gamer gets Metroid Prime 3, while "they" get Wii Play and Mario Party. The core gamer gets Galaxy, while "they" get Wii Fit.


And this E3, the casual gamer gets Wii Sports 2 and Wii Music while "traditional" gamers get... what, Animal Crossing? I think it's fair to say that doesn't appeal much to 24 year old males, and I'd argue it's a casual game with some core appeal, not vice versa.


Again, personally, I'm fine. I love Wii Sports, it's my favorite game of the generation -- but I do see why others might be miffed.

 

I am without a doubt upset that they didn't announce any games for me at the E3 conference but I'm not about to admit my taste in games is better than anyone elses, Nintendo has deserted me, Nintendo has gone too far, and whatever other argument people use.  I just see it as they didn't announce any games for me, which sucks, but it doesn't mean that I should be upset because other people are getting games they enjoy.

I really hate the elitist fucks that think their taste in games is automatically better because they've been playing games longer and their games have blood.  This rule generally holds true for me for most types of media where you have the people have been long time fans and see themselves as better than the flood of new people and think anything geared towards them just isn't good enough or whatever.



is the OP a troll?...or a really hardcore nintendo hater?



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Nintendo's message has been pretty clear this whole Generation. They are focusing on what is making them successful and frankly it's not a bad business decision. Think, if it wasn't for these games, the wii would have just been another Game Cube.
If hardcore is your type of games, there are better consoles than handle that.



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deathcape said:
is the OP a troll?...or a really hardcore nintendo hater?

 

 Neither



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deathcape said:
is the OP a troll?...or a really hardcore nintendo hater?

Neither. He's a dude who posts articles he finds interesting. It doesn't mean he agrees with them.

@Twestern: "I really hate the elitist fucks that think their taste in games is automatically better because they've been playing games longer and their games have blood.  This rule generally holds true for me for most types of media where you have the people have been long time fans and see themselves as better than the flood of new people and think anything geared towards them just isn't good enough or whatever."

I needed to quote that, because sadly it's spot-on. There's a reason I consider "hardcore" to be an insult nowadays. Hopefully this madness will end in the next few years, or at least die down a bit.



1st i thought this guy have a not bad opinion from the other perspective ,but after many topics that maintain on Nintendo and try not to make it look like he bashing Ninty(but he actually did).

Now i don't think you good anymore.



The snobcore gamers are getting more and more annoying as this generation continues. Gaming has been looked down upon for years and people were upset. Now that more people are embracing it, these guys get upset again.

Don't like Nintendogs? Don't play it!

Same can apply to "core" games. I don't like RPGs so I don't play them. I don't write long articles about how they are trash and ruining gaming and everybody has to like only what I like.