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Forums - Sony Discussion - the Blu-ray thread, will go on untill hddvds death.

^^^ good news, the faster it dies the better. At this point though HD-DVD losing support is expected and not surprising.



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A Passage to India was announced for April on Blu-Ray. For those of you who don't know that is a Sir David Lean movie.

Lets hope we see Lawrence of Arabia sooner rather than later then! I have heard rumors it is already done, they are just sitting on it. I would really like to see that in hi-def.



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i really can't wait till HD-dvds are on sale for like $5. I have both formats, so just because hd-dvd will probably die won't mean that the movies i have for it will automatically not work. It's not like i'm going to re buy my hd-dvd movies on blu-ray, just like i wouldn't buy my blu-ray movies on hd-dvd if blu-ray had been the defeated.



makingmusic476 said:
Another blow almost as big as the Warner move, Sonic Solutions has announced that it will discontinue their support of HD DVD. This is very significant, as Sonic Solutions is the supplier of authoring tools for the HD DVD format.

From Emedialive.com:

Sonic's Professional Products Group to Fuel Growth of Blu-ray Disc and Digital Distribution
Posted Jan 30, 2008

Sonic Solutions® (NASDAQ: SNIC), the leader in digital media software, today announced that its Professional Products Group will focus its research and development resources on the creation of new applications for cutting-edge authoring of Blu-ray Disc titles that encompass the interactive and connected-content capabilities of BD-Live. The group will also increase resource allocation on developing its encoding and title creation applications that streamline the process of preparing video entertainment for digital distribution. In order to address these emerging market opportunities and optimize investment return, the Professional Products Group will conclude sales of its Scenarist® HD DVD authoring product line.

“Extending Sonic’s long history of commitment and support for the professional sector, we are aligning our professional product portfolio to address the evolving needs of our high-end customers,” said Dave Habiger, president and CEO, Sonic Solutions. “Our Professional Products Group plays a significant role in supporting the development of high-definition formats, including the contribution of core IP to HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc joint portfolio licenses. Going forward, the group will direct its considerable format expertise on helping our professional customers fulfill the richly interactive promise of Blu-ray Disc including BD-Live, and aligning with a broader company strategy to enable the secure and efficient digital-distribution of video entertainment.”

Part of Sonic’s industry-leading professional authoring solutions, Scenarist provides the specification-level control required to author BD titles of uncompromising interactivity and compatibility. In 2008, an expanded feature set will simplify the creation of highly interactive BD components, such as enabling BD-Live, which enhances on-disc content in broadband-connected players. To streamline the creation of BD-Live, Sonic will build upon its pioneering InterActual® technologies, which today enable millions of movie enthusiasts to benefit from a similar ‘connected content’ experience when viewing DVDs on a PC.

“Our professional authoring customers are actively engaged with expanding their services in advanced interactive and online content creation. With a focus on Blu-ray Disc, we’re able to meet this demand with new technologies and applications that leverage the growing-capabilities of the robust BD format to deliver dynamic entertainment experiences that consumers not only want, but have also come to expect from today’s connected-content platforms,” said Rolf Hartley, senior vice president and general manager of Sonic's Professional Products Group. “Commensurate with this focus, we’re building our solutions in support of video delivery beyond professional packaged media and assisting in the enhancement of emerging platforms that provide consumers convenient, flexible access to high-quality entertainment.”

To further enable the authoring community, Sonic will offer its Scenarist HD DVD customers a special promotion to exchange their authoring system(s) for a Scenarist BD system. Sonic’s Professional Products Group will maintain its high-end support services as part of its SonicCare™ program for HD DVD customers who elect not to participate in the special promotion program and will provide software update releases where appropriate in keeping with its standard practice.


To understand just how important this is, here's a quote from Toshiba, back during HD DVD's initial launch:

"We are excited about Sonic Solutions' support of HD DVD. Our close cooperation with Sonic is a key component in delivering the next generation of high-definition movies to consumers," said Hisashi Yamada, chief fellow of Toshiba Corporation's Digital Media Network Company. "The availability of Scenarist HD will ensure a successful launch of the new format."

You're kidding, right? You're using a bunch of PR speak to pretend this is as big as Warner's move?  You expect any company to down play a partnership, and not play it up?

It doesn't matter how important this actually is to the HD-DVD forum. Your evidence they are important is crap. You're starting to look like profdallas. 



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The Future is Blu!



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I couple more companies have gone blu, including National Geographic (parent company Warner, leaving BBC left), and Surround Records dropped its HD DVD only support for dual-format support.



"The Future is Blu!"

So shut up until the future. Neither format is doing anything interesting right now. They could at least drop the MSRP.



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It seems that the HD-DVD is about to die. Toshiba will not give up that fast (Superbowl ad, price reduction), possibly that keeps the format alive for some time. The big question is, if HD-DVD dies really, will BluRay make room against the DVD and movie-downloads, or will it die also on the long term?



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Mnementh said:
It seems that the HD-DVD is about to die. Toshiba will not give up that fast (Superbowl ad, price reduction), possibly that keeps the format alive for some time. The big question is, if HD-DVD dies really, will BluRay make room against the DVD and movie-downloads, or will it die also on the long term?

The thing is that DVD overtook VHS because it was convenient.* So far, only DVRs have come close. Neither blu-ray, or HD-DVD, nor downloading movies, has become more convenient than DVD. Until that happens, they won't go mainstream.

*Quality over convenience is usually the justification for why DVD is supposedly obsolete now, but how many media formats overtook another, based on quality, not convenience? 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
Mnementh said:
It seems that the HD-DVD is about to die. Toshiba will not give up that fast (Superbowl ad, price reduction), possibly that keeps the format alive for some time. The big question is, if HD-DVD dies really, will BluRay make room against the DVD and movie-downloads, or will it die also on the long term?

The thing is that DVD overtook VHS because it was convenient.* So far, only DVRs have come close. Neither blu-ray, or HD-DVD, nor downloading movies, has become more convenient than DVD. Until that happens, they won't go mainstream.

*Quality over convenience is usually the justification for why DVD is supposedly obsolete now, but how many media formats overtook another, based on quality, not convenience?


 Wasn't a lot of first DVD advertising and PR basically listing reasons why it was better then VHS, main things weren't convenient but more it's better quality and your DVDs don't 'age'.

 

On the Superbowl ad, that's wasted for most the world.  



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