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DTG said:
wow the sarcasm in this thread is saddening. You people must have never picked up a dovstoyevski or watched a Hitchock and don't want to see anything comparable in games either.



No, it's because you're thread is pointless whining.  Wahh, Nintendo is killing casual games, boo-hooo.  Funny, I don't think Nintendo is making the casual games on the other systems.  I also don't think they're cranking out HD titles that routinely fail to make back the ridiculous production costs.  Nintendo is bringing new people into gaming, which, that's right Mr. Delusional, will benefit the industry as a whole

Sure, a lot of them have pretty awful tastes.  My Mom bought herself a Wii and promptly threw away $40 on uber-trite like Carnival Games.  But then, lo and behold, she instantly bought Guitar Hero III for herself as well.  People had pretty awful taste when the Atari2600 or NES introduced them to gaming, as well.  As they grow as gamers, they'll grow toward more hardcore gaming and their tastes will become refined.  Everyone has bad taste in something until they get into it for a while and learn more about said something.

Face it, the industry needs casual-leaning titles to reach out beyond the hardcore.  That's what sports titles and crap like SingStar and the Sony Eyetoy and the Game Boy Camera have been doing for ages.  Bring gaming to more people than just gamers. 

The hardcore games aren't going anywhere.  They're just getting worse and worse cases of sequelitis, and less and less creative overall.  Funny, the people to blame for that--are us hardcore gamers, who often refuse to buy into new games, original ideas, or creativity.  Almost no one bought Eternal Darkness on the Wii, but we hardcore geniuses were more than happy to go out and by the GC Resident Evil--only about the 4th iteration of that one game.  Still, I can't say I understand this paranoid delusion that Nintendo is trying, or going, to destroy traditional hardcore games.  Looks to me like there are still tons and tons, and tons and tons of hardcore games still coming out.



Also, it's Ingmar Bergman, so next time you want to sound like you're all high-n-mighty, you can at least spell his name correctly while referencing a film you've probably never seen (by the way, The Seventh Seal is freakin' awesome with surprisingly deep writing for the era--no doubt all thanks to being made outside of Hollywood).   

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Who cares about spelling that name good..


I think the OP needs to know some definitions:

Game means: (From

1. an amusement or pastime: children's games.
2. the material or equipment used in playing certain games: a store selling toys and games.
3. a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators.
4. a single occasion of such an activity, or a definite portion of one: the final game of the season; a rubber of three games at bridge.
5. the number of points required to win a game.
6. the score at a particular stage in a game: With five minutes to play, the game was 7 to 0.
7. a particular manner or style of playing a game: Her game of chess is improving.
8. anything resembling a game, as in requiring skill, endurance, or adherence to rules: the game of diplomacy.
9. a trick or strategy: to see through someone's game.
10. fun; sport of any kind; joke: That's about enough of your games.
11. wild animals, including birds and fishes, such as are hunted for food or taken for sport or profit.
12. the flesh of such wild animals or other game, used as food: a dish of game.
13. any object of pursuit, attack, abuse, etc.: The new boy at school seemed to be fair game for practical jokers.
14. Informal. a business or profession: He's in the real-estate game.
15. Archaic. fighting spirit; pluck.

Nothing there mentions high art. So maybe only Nintendo gets it.

Look, I would love to have seen something more substantial at E3 too. But people play Animal Crossing like Crack and WWII shooters and Light Sabre battles are considered hardcore on any other system, as is GTA.

Basically, it appears that those who don't like the Wii, who can't believe it is on the verge of 50 percent global market share, who can't face the fact that fun triumphs over fancy graphics, are parsing everything that Nintendo says and making their case that the company that resurrected the industry in the mid 1980s is killing it today.

Maybe Nintendo knows that the people who are in the gaming press and to a certain extent read/follow the gaming press share these sentiments. So why bother to try to impress them at E3 -- you can't. Instead, make money, sell games, impress investors (though some of them look at E3 too).

Nintendo is marketing to everyone with its current systems. It is not specializing in the niche market of tech-savy 15-34 year old males -- the demographic that Sony and Microsoft seek. Thus, it has larger sales, more diverse offerings (including things many of us would not touch but sell to others), and profits. Neither of its competitors can make that claim.

So I guess Nintendo is killing the industry because it succeeds while Sony and Microsoft lose money.

Mike from Morgantown


I am Mario.

I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492


naznatips said:
NintendoMan said:
why have they changed animal crossing to the city, i enjoyed the country setting. AC is now just one more reason for me not to get a Wii.


They didn't... they added a city that you can go to to sell stuff online in and such, but you still have your country village.  Now your friends can join you though online and they are packing it in with the new Wii Speak mic so you can talk online.

WiiSpeak will not be packed in with Animal Crossing. Cammie Dunaway said so in an interview.


Ajax said:
Who cares about spelling that name good..

Next up: Your grammar lesson.