Are you the anti-Nintendo mod to maintain balance in the universe? 

Do I think Nintendo will make the same mistake twice? No, they're going to be making a different mistake with the same underlying problem that leads to downfall for all companies. This isn't Anti-Nintendo, and I fully believe that Sony (this generation) was terribly arrogant and it clearly led to their demise. Hell, Nintendo could easily make the same mistake twice if another company can't even learn from past examples.

Remember, Sony had an unbelievably popular system on their hands with the Playstation, and the Playstation 2 made their legacy even stronger. Seriously, look at an old American chart from 2005 or before, and notice something. Sony had unbelievable dominance in America with the PS2, with the GBA acting as only a mild competitor hardware wise and a non-existant competitor software wise (lower software sales, plus the PS2 grabbed demographics the GBA couldn't). And the rest of the world wasn't much different.

Hell, Sony was just about ready to crush the DS in PAL and America with the PSP, and the PS2 pretty much owned the world. And in only a couple short years, they're lying on their back and they control less than 40% of the market with 3 different systems. Sony looked just an invincible as Nintendo does now.

And Torillian makes a good point, but I don't agree with him entirely.

@Others: I didn't really say anything offensive besides Nintendo ignoring the requests of their consumers, and I'm just loosely quoting what Zenfoldor said (I'll give you $1,000Vg to convince me that Zenfoldor hates Nintendo). Zenfoldor basically made a thread (if memory serves) saying that Nintendo is so successful because they ignored what the GC and N64 audience wanted and went for what they believed the mass market wanted. However, this strategy could backfire in upcoming generations.

well we can certainly test that theory, since I'm a regular user.  I'll tell ya how it works out :P

The thing about Nintendo though is that no matter how arrogant they get, they always sit on a mountain of cash. Even in the lean times of 03'-04' they had like ~$10 billion just sitting in banks for a really rainy day.

Sony and Microsoft as companies have lots of money, but they generally expect the gaming sector to carry its own weight now. Given that Sony & Microsoft have lost so much money on the PS3, Xbox/early Xbox 360 years it may not be easy for them to come back against Nintendo vs. a company like Sega in the Genesis days which was equally gaming centric and desperate, or even Sony in the mid 90s which entered with no expectations and both Nintendo/Sega making mistakes.

That isn't to say Nintendo is perfect, but given the size vs. profitability of a company like Nintendo you have to figure its easier to realign corportate philosophy to come back when you sit on a mountain of cash.

All the same, coming in third in two generations may mean selling 100m consoles anyway (vs. number one selling ~300m+). I think this could be the last generation with two of the main machines under ~75 million.

Nintendo have a new president now Mr Iwata who is much younger and more intelligent than his old predecessor. It was the last guy that caused alot of trouble for Nintendo by pissing off alot of the big Japanese third parties like Square, Capcom etc, around the time the n64, ps1 era started.



Im pretty sure Mr Iwata remembers the past and will avoid the same mistakes and take lessons from the competitors mistakes also. You also gotta admit it took alot of guts for him to go the direction he did with the ds and wii. When everybody at the time would have said it would be suicide. But now looking back on it, he read the gaming business beautifully and everybody else was wrong.  

no way......i think he's absolutely true!!

this what i believe as well, MS/Sony are so desparated watching the Wii beating their high graphics consoles, and instead of trying to think of something new, they just copy Nintendo like that, showing how low the competition is, just like admiting the Wii is too great to be beaten....

I admit that he brings a lot of hope into the company, hopefully he won't make the same mistakes.

Ahh... I'm going to word this as not to get banned.

Granted to OP seems dim he didn't stray from points that can't currently be proven. Instead he's atacked by the juxtaposition of a few commentators above. Note that commentators are above the other audience and express this through just being a commentator.

However in all this reaction to the OP very few whole arguements are based on anything but feeling and speculation - not even using any form of data to support their antithesis. Not a single quote of any Nintendo rep that matches a Sony rep in context to express their points, instead I read these posts and see I'll just have to take the posters word for it. (Not even a mention of the source, then it could be googled at least.)

The OP stated what has happened - the closest thing to infference was him stating that the competition is low, by his definition of "low" being the point lost in translation, unless he's reffering to the Wii not targeting the PS3 core market then sure.

Instead he's labeled a fanboy for pointing out nothing that isn't true. There's something else wrong with the OP aside from how it was written and he wasn't called names for that?

They'll never be a failure again, but they could easily fall from market dominance, which was my main point (I felt like getting off what was on my mind).

I am a Nintendo fan but even I know they will go down someday again like they did before and like sony has just done. Nothing lasts forever but it can be reborn as Nintendo did this gen ;)