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MontanaHatchet on 13 July 2008
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Soriku said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Soriku said:
MontanaHatchet said:
I'm not liking you already, so I'm going to have to bust your chops.

*Prepare yourself*

Seriously, this is how you start off the site? You really think Nintendo will be on top forever? Look at them, they're already becoming arrogant and it's not even the end of the generation yet! They're already bragging about their sales numbers like Sony did, and their strategy of ignoring what their loyal consumers want (while working) will backfire in the upcoming generations.

Nintendo is set up for a fall 2 generations from now, and the only company that will be ready to take Nintendo's place is Sony or an unknown future competitor.


Hasn't every company that's been #1 been arrogant? How are you criticizing Nintendo for that when EVERYONE does it?

Second, how do you know they'll topple? They're still appealing to the casual (Brain Train, the "Wii" games, etc.) and the hardcore (SMG, Brawl, Zelda, Metroid, etc.). Right now they're doing to the Wii what they did to the DS. Eventually sales will be too high for third parties NOT to put more quality games on it. Of course there'll still be shovelware (every leading company gets shovelware), but leading systems still get quality games (Wii is getting Tales, Fatal Frame, Arc Rise Fantasia, etc.).

I can't believe you took the time to write and ignorant post like this. But then again I guess this goes hand-in-hand with your other ignorant post.

Exactly, every company at #1 has been arrogant. Doesn't mean that Nintendo is devoid of criticism.

Just because they have success right now doesn't mean they will have a permanent spot at the top. Sony completely stole third party support from Nintendo with the Playstation, released both hardcore and casual games (just look at PS million sellers), and they broke boundaries for how much a console could sell. Will Nintendo do that with the Wii? Most likely. But it won't stop them from toppling over in a generation or two.

As for ignorant posts, don't point figures.

 

 

You can't say Nintendo will topple without any proof. For all we know they could still be arrogant...but just be as arrogant as they are now (ie. not arrogant enough for them to topple over again). Do you really believe Nintendo will make the same mistake twice? As long as they continue making the games they're making now (to appeal to the casual and core gamers) and getting a high enough userbase for third parties to quality games on it, I don't see them toppling again in the near future.

Do I think Nintendo will make the same mistake twice? No, they're going to be making a different mistake with the same underlying problem that leads to downfall for all companies. This isn't Anti-Nintendo, and I fully believe that Sony (this generation) was terribly arrogant and it clearly led to their demise. Hell, Nintendo could easily make the same mistake twice if another company can't even learn from past examples.

Remember, Sony had an unbelievably popular system on their hands with the Playstation, and the Playstation 2 made their legacy even stronger. Seriously, look at an old American chart from 2005 or before, and notice something. Sony had unbelievable dominance in America with the PS2, with the GBA acting as only a mild competitor hardware wise and a non-existant competitor software wise (lower software sales, plus the PS2 grabbed demographics the GBA couldn't). And the rest of the world wasn't much different.

Hell, Sony was just about ready to crush the DS in PAL and America with the PSP, and the PS2 pretty much owned the world. And in only a couple short years, they're lying on their back and they control less than 40% of the market with 3 different systems. Sony looked just an invincible as Nintendo does now.

And Torillian makes a good point, but I don't agree with him entirely.

@Others: I didn't really say anything offensive besides Nintendo ignoring the requests of their consumers, and I'm just loosely quoting what Zenfoldor said (I'll give you $1,000Vg to convince me that Zenfoldor hates Nintendo). Zenfoldor basically made a thread (if memory serves) saying that Nintendo is so successful because they ignored what the GC and N64 audience wanted and went for what they believed the mass market wanted. However, this strategy could backfire in upcoming generations.