You're not supposed to point out that ... Most PS3 fans are unwilling to accept that most of the best 3D engine programmers have had the PS3 hardware for 2 to 3 years by now, and have devoted high quality teams to maximize performance towards the PS3 build.

Now, they're correct in that most dedicated developers seem to get better performance out of the PS3 but (in my opinion) that is far more likely the result of being able to customize the underlying engine towards the requirements of the game than because of the PS3's capabilities; basically, certain design decisions that have to be made when you're producing a generic solution (like a licenced 3D game engine) end up being less efficient at some things than something which was designed specifically too solve that problem.

If you're referring to what I think you are, you just unlocked the achievement of "Knee-jerk reaction".

That was Edge, not Eurogamer...

@NJ5, it's not hurting Sony at all though. It USED to hurt Sony a ton, but that was before the damn thing worked on the PS3 :P It run's just fine and even some companies that use the engine can get better results off the PS3, but it requires the dedicated effort, and in sheer number of "exclusive" titles that have been made on each system, the 360's obviously got the hands down win for time and resources put into dedicated hardware. Even epic themselves is now working on they're 3rd game for the hardware, whereas they've had 1 game on the PS3. If the Unreal engine didn't work better on the system that's seen more games using it, which is easier to use, which has been out longer, I'd be very, VERY concerned.

When I wrote that I was thinking of the Square Enix game which got delayed for the PS3, according to them due to problems with UE3 (which seem to be solved now). Whether new PS3 UE3 games will stand up to the 360 versions of the same games remains an open question.

 Again that was EDGE magazine.

You guys seem really good at making up shit so it fits your fanboy agenda and you can hapilly go on ignoring a site or mag because of something they never said in the first place.

really? Well, my apolgies, it's hard to distinguish those two, being the only 2 reviews giving MGS4 an ridiculous subpar review and all. ;)

You are funny, you make me laugh.

Really?

I figured both were too soft on the experience(I dare not call it a game)

A reviewer has a different opinion from other reviewers and some forum members! Quick, someone call the SDF police!

@NJ5 very true, and I think Sony should continue to assist them with optimization techniques personally. They got it running on PS3 hardware, but if Epic's not making any games directly on the PS3, they have little need to research the tricks of the trade so to speak. I've seen what the PS3 is capable of and the UE3 engine is not it's peak at all. But back on topic, if THIS installment of UT3 wasn't more polished, there would be some need for concern :x