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Xponent said:
Best. Console. Ever.

I still consider SNES the best console ever :/



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Analog controls before the N64 didn't have the same degree of freedom. They either wouldn't re-center properly, or they only had 8 angles to move in rather than 360 degrees, or they didn't have different levels of speed depending on how hard you push. The N64's analog stick was the revolution in analog controls.

3-D gaming wasn't invented by the N64, but 3-D gaming with a new control scheme built for it from the ground up... and that was the new analog stick.

I think the reason you think Mario 64 was shit was because you're denying the 2 basic innovations it brought to gaming that changed the industry forever.



If you think colored consoles are stupid, why did Sony and MS start doing it after Nintendo? Whenever a new color is released, sales spike. Every time, on every system.

And it didn't say "multiplayer." It said "4 controller ports out of the box." For earlier systems you had to buy an adapter to play games more than 2 players. N64 was the first system to be ready for a party, and it had the best party games, GoldenEye, Star Fox 64, Mario Kart 64, Smash Bros., etc.

The Vectrex used potentiometer based analog controls in 1982. Sony also beat the N64 to market with their first analog controller, the Playstation Analog Stick (not the Dual Analog Controller).

I thought SM64 was shit because I don't like games that just involve jumping and picking stuff up. I just find it extremely tedious, and it is clearly aimed at a younger market.

The reason Sony and MS started making coloured consoles after Nintendo is because they realised it stimulates sales. That doesn't mean it's a good idea, it just means that consumers are gullible enough to fall for pointless marketing gimmicks.

Releasing with 4 ports instead of relying on additional purchase can hardly be considered an innovation. In any case, it didn't come with 4 controllers did it? So it would still require an additional purchase. The multi-tap on both SNES and Megadrive were extremely popular, so additional ports changed nothing. Not to mention numerous arcade games that were built primarily for multiplayer.

 



pichu_pichu said:
Xponent said:
Best. Console. Ever.

I still consider SNES the best console ever :/

 

 for me it would be the ps2



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leo-j said:
d21lewis said:
leo-j said:
I love the N64 and all(I own one)

But most of those "innovations" came from the ps1..

 

 WTF!?  Sorry, leo-j.  The PS-1 had many of those features, and often times, took a Nintendo idea and made it better (Dual Analog, instead of single, two shoulder buttons instead of one, internal vibration, instead of battery powered add on) but Nintendo did them first.  That's how Sony got the reputation of not being creative.  It's okay though because pretty much all technology today is an improved version of what someone else discovered.

 

 ps1 had 3d graphics, and there was a system before either the ps1 or N64 that had analog control

No console had analogue control before the N64, and further, the Sony Playstation Risc processor was NOT true 3d. Look at almost every game that came out on that system, it's a planar 3d world, inhabited by 2d sprites. Don't even try to compare the "3d" of Crash Bandicoot to Mario 64, which was the first true 3d system on the market.

 

And good lord, outside of maybe a few square games on the PS1, most of those games look horrendous today. Whereas N64 games still look quite good.

 

The PS1 wouldn't have even existed if there wasn't a Nintendo Play Station.

 



 

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brute said:
^3D gmae wasnt before the nes,and the analoig stick didnt work well,like rubangB pointed out

The first polygon-based 3D game was I, Robot in 1983. That was pre-dated by a number of vector-based 3D games, such as Battlezone in 1980.

The company most responsible for the evolution of 3D gaming in the '90s was Sega, with it's Virtua series.

 



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Played_Out said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Analog controls before the N64 didn't have the same degree of freedom. They either wouldn't re-center properly, or they only had 8 angles to move in rather than 360 degrees, or they didn't have different levels of speed depending on how hard you push. The N64's analog stick was the revolution in analog controls.

3-D gaming wasn't invented by the N64, but 3-D gaming with a new control scheme built for it from the ground up... and that was the new analog stick.

I think the reason you think Mario 64 was shit was because you're denying the 2 basic innovations it brought to gaming that changed the industry forever.



If you think colored consoles are stupid, why did Sony and MS start doing it after Nintendo? Whenever a new color is released, sales spike. Every time, on every system.

And it didn't say "multiplayer." It said "4 controller ports out of the box." For earlier systems you had to buy an adapter to play games more than 2 players. N64 was the first system to be ready for a party, and it had the best party games, GoldenEye, Star Fox 64, Mario Kart 64, Smash Bros., etc.

The Vectrex used potentiometer based analog controls in 1982. Sony also beat the N64 to market with their first analog controller, the Playstation Analog Stick (not the Dual Analog Controller).

I thought SM64 was shit because I don't like games that just involve jumping and picking stuff up. I just find it extremely tedious, and it is clearly aimed at a younger market.

The reason Sony and MS started making coloured consoles after Nintendo is because they realised it stimulates sales. That doesn't mean it's a good idea, it just means that consumers are gullible enough to fall for pointless marketing gimmicks.

Releasing with 4 ports instead of relying on additional purchase can hardly be considered an innovation. In any case, it didn't come with 4 controllers did it? So it would still require an additional purchase. The multi-tap on both SNES and Megadrive were extremely popular, so additional ports changed nothing. Not to mention numerous arcade games that were built primarily for multiplayer.

 

The Analogue on your Sony controllers was only rushed to market, AFTER everybody was shown the N64's analogue controls. Just because they released it a week before the system launched here in the states, doesn't mean that Sony did it first.

The fact that you think the system only had games featuring "jumping and stuff", speaks volumes about your lack of knowledge in regards to the N64. You'd be best to lay off further comments which make you out to be trollish.

Likewise, your comment about the system not coming with 4 controls. Wow. I hope you didn't spend too long working on that arguement.

 



 

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Played_Out said:
brute said:
^3D gmae wasnt before the nes,and the analoig stick didnt work well,like rubangB pointed out

The first polygon-based 3D game was I, Robot in 1983. That was pre-dated by a number of vector-based 3D games, such as Battlezone in 1980.

The company most responsible for the evolution of 3D gaming in the '90s was Sega, with it's Virtua series.

 

 

 that was for the arcade right?



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leo-j said:

 

 ps1 had 3d graphics, and there was a system before either the ps1 or N64 that had analog control

You're thinking of this leoj:

That's the in box controller for the Neo Geo AES which came out in 1990 I think. That's not really an analog stick though. That's a joystick and they were on the Atari consoles too. They were used for precise 2D movements, and still to this day have no equal when it comes to that.

 



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