He said that it just doesn't have the best environment graphics.

The problem is some people dont think graphics are awesome unless they are going for photorealism. Games that take Fable 2's approach to graphics and art style often get knocked in graphics department and dismissed as no contest. Personally the visuals on a whole to me look better than Gears 2, MGS4 and KZ2. Obviosly the characters are way more cartoony, but the environments and lighting(which is by far the best lighting in any game ive seen) are so impressive. It looks so magical that it might just be the game I give GOTY.

^^I concur. The game looks fun as hell.

Yep, it looks better than the games you mention. As you said, the lighting and shadows look awesome but also the choice of colors is superb. The whole package gives me the same magical wonderland feeling I got the first time I launched Zelda: OoT on my N64. I love when they do those dreamy particles flowing in the air, seems to be alot of that in Fable 2.

i'm sorry i'll stick to my point of view on this..... Peter never disappointed anyone anytime and his game delivered.... yeah they didn't deliver what he was hopping for, but it was certainly not his fault, the technology available wasn't advance enough and probably will never be for a prolific mind like peter's one.... he probably is the most disappointed about it even more than you guys... I'm not saying he doesn't talk too much sometime.... but the problem is always a technology issue that's it.... give him the tools he'll provide, bitch against intel, nvidia ati ibm and other chipset manufacturer to be 4 trains behind his prospective

The environment looks amazing. Simply amazing. But the characters (when present) look like crap. Perhaps they will improve them.

doesn't mean it's peter's fault, my point is that everybody is saying he is not providing on what he promises. and I answer yes because we all know what he promises is often far beyond what the technology available has to offer. the real issue here is we have a guy with unlimited ideas and tech with limited possibilities... So peter's should shut up sometime, but the real problem in the outcome of his games is more often tech related than a bad development or a bad idea....

So if I promise that a game will have the best visuals ever and run at 1080p at 60fps, then when the game is released and it turns out it runs at 720p and 30fps, it's ok?  Because the technology just wasn't there to accomplish my vision?  Don't blame me for my lies, blame technology for not catching up to my lies.

You don't hype up features that are NOT in the game.  Remember how trees were going to grow in Fable?  Yea, I don't remember that in the game either.  Peter Molyneux is notorious for hyping his games beyond belief.  The good news for Fable 2 though, is that he's been pretty quiet on the hyping front, which bodes well (IMO) for the game.  He's no longer promising all these outlandish features, but seems like he's just hyping what is already implemented in the game.

Fable II Collectors edition box and details: http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/archive/2008/07/07/559813.aspx