So you don't have actual proof that this generations numbers have been changed. Can you atleast prove that at some point npd have gone back and changed any of their numbers instead of just saying 'well i heard this'?

Like i posted above it's not millions of wii's it's 750,000~ and yet again your answer to the second point is you don't know and are just guessing.

@ psycho: "NPD is only USA, not America.  The continent doesn't belong to the US citizens ;)  I'M from Canada and I'm as American as you are:D  In fact, in french, US citizen should be called "États-Uniens"....................it's really ugly, but it is the good name :D"

In the US and abroad, when most people say "America" in referring to a place, most speakers and listeners understand it to mean the US.  People say "the Americas" if they mean the whole hemisphere taken together, or "North America" or "South America" if they mean the continents. "America" just IS shorthand for the US of America.

So can you demonstrate that NPD doesn't follow the practice of adjusting their numbers as more accurate data comes in, which is common for all tracking firms accross all industries?

If they don't I wonder why anyone would actually pay to see their numbers ... over time the inconsistency and errors in their dataset would be (fairly) massive, their ability to accurately estimate monthly sales numbers would be reduced, and their forecasts would be off by millions of units. This is why you commonly see news releases when the government adjusts the numbers for jobs and inflation as more data comes in. Personally, if I was a CEO and was dealing with a tracking company that did not even attempt to have the most accurate and up-to-date numbers on a monthly basis I wouldn't pay the thousands of dollars to see their report.

This is What I have. I hope it helps. This is from USA:

Xbox360 Wii PS3
Nov 326,000
Dec 281,000
Jan 249,000
Feb 161,000
Mar 192,000
Apr 295,000
May 221,000
Jun 277,000
Jul 206,000
Aug 205,000
Sep 260,000
Oct 218,000
Nov 511,000 476,000 197,000
Dec 1,100,000 604,200 490,700
Jan 293,774 435,503 243,554
Feb 228,225 335,324 127,321
Mar 199,000 259,000 130,000
Apr 174,000 360,000 82,000
May 155,000 338,000 81,000
Jun 198,400 381,800 98,500
Jul 169,000 425,000 158,000
Aug 276,700 403,600 130,600
Sep 527,800 501,000 119,000
Oct 366,000 519,000 121,000
Nov 770,000 981,000 466,000
Dec 1,260,000 1,350,000 797,600
Jan 230,000 274,000 269,000
Feb 254,600 432,000 280,800
Mar 262,000 721,000 257,000
Apr 188,000 714,200 187,100
May 186,600 675,100 208,700

1. You're biased. MGS4's hardware selling failure was marginalized by bashing vgchartz and Nintendo. You hate nintendo and love sony. That is the real reason you even post this stuff.

2. There was no conclusive proof to show the numbers you posted were right.

a. You don't think the Wii sells more consoles than the PS3 in the americas?

b. For the Wii, shipped = sold. Newsflash.

3. It's "right there" not "right their" and while we're both fanboys here, I admit it. You simply spout false alligations towards VGChartz when it suits you. MGS4's failure and the people laughing about it got you angry, so you were gonna do something to silence them, by flaming the site, and posting NPD numbers to show us we didn't know what the hell we were talking about, and how MGS4 really sold a lot of hardware. No, you're not a fanboy at all.

4. You mean that I've posted "damage control" for VGChartz? You are saying that I've came up with excuses for VGChartz failing? I shouldn't have to. You should have just been banned. However, again, your logic is flawed, and your "responses" dont' explain anything except the fact that I'm a fanboy. However many times you've been told, and despite the obvious inconsistancies from your comparison between NPD and VGChartz, you refuse to even acknowledge they exist, instead resorting to personal attacks. This is the second post you've done it in.

Maybe if you just admit to me that the Wii largely beating the PS3 in all territories, I'll leave you alone, so you can get back to your trolling, lies, assumptions, and half-truths. Otherwise, you, like every other misinformed post on this forum, is stuck with Zenfoldor busting you out.

So, just fyi, if NPD and VGChartz American sales matched up, someone would be wrong, because VGChartz covers more than US and Canada. Also, VGChartz data matches up with Wii shipped info extrapolation for America, where the Wii is still supply constrained. Your assumptions end here. Deny those facts so you can get corrected, or stop posting personal flames towards me, because you lack the fortitude to deny them outright. The truth is, you can't deny them, and if they are true, your case loses all credibility, now doesnt' it?

Wanna try answering my questions?

Well for starters you're just concentrating on the wii, who's to say that some how the wii numbers are right but the 360 or ps3 numbers are wrong. Who's to say that the 1 million difference isn't a combination of wii's sold in south america, wii's in transit and wii's on store shelves?

Can you explain the ps3 numbers where aparantly the ps3 has sold next to nothing in south america.

So you don't have any proof you're just guessing. And if any adjustments did take place you have no idea what they were and are just guessing again.

So in other words, after Fishy's post, you now assume the Wii numbers are right, or at least you can't refute them.

Expensive + Lack of personal piracy + Lack of Comercial piracy = poor sales in developing nations

There are many people (who I agree with) who say that music labels, movie studios, and game developers should start selling their content in developing nations at slightly higher than the cost to print the discs in order to create a legitimate market (and therefore kill the pirates). Currently, no company has taken this approach so you have the option of buying a modded system (and burning your own games), or buying stamped games for (less than) $5 ... Being that neither option works because of Blu-Ray who is going to buy a system where the games are (at least) 12 times as expensive as the competition?

He probably just knows the only reason you're taking this stance is because you want the PS3 to have sold more than VGChartz says that is has, so in all likelyhood, no matter how much "evidence" you present, if you were actually correct, it would be luck.