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I just found this while browsing through another site.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psx2&thread.id=656

lol, what an opinion that guy had.

He actually mentions the 'Dolphin', I remember it was going to be called that.

 



 

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Lol love this part:

Sony did many things wrong with the PS2, there's no way it will be #1... it'll probably be #2 or even #3. The reason the PSX is so cool and successful is that it appeals to EVERYONE, not just a select crowd of people. PlayStation2 will be stuck in the middle between Dreamcast and Dolphin... the only thing that it won't have between DC and Dolphin is the price... PS2 will be the most expensive of the three.






The funny thing is that, the same arguments is used against the ps3. I know that its not the same situation but still.



 

Just goes to show you can't make great predictions before a console launches. Who knows what will happen after it finally makes it to market ...



That is some funny stuff. Nice find.



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Dolla Dolla said:
Just goes to show you can't make great predictions before a console launches. Who knows what will happen after it finally makes it to market ...

Or when it picks up steam.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS&reg3=All&align=1



 

Its not surprising that people made the same arguments against PS2 and PS3, since PS3's strategy is really just PS2's strategy pushed too far.



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Dallinor said:
Dolla Dolla said:
Just goes to show you can't make great predictions before a console launches. Who knows what will happen after it finally makes it to market ...

Or when it picks up steam.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=PS®3=All&align=1

Here is Nintendo's last threehttp://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GC&reg1=All&cons2=Wii&reg2=All&cons3=N64&reg3=All&align=1

 



 

  

 

I didn't realise that people used those arguements for the PS2 aswell!

$375 is way too much for most people to spend on a console. Now I know some 30 year old "kid" who buys all the latest electronics and games is gonna come on here and say that PS2 price is no problem for him, and that it'll go perfect with his high end home theater system and provide broadband products and services into his home.=I know for some people £400 isn't a big deal, especially with their surround sound and HD TV.

it has a bunch of useless features that won't be used by mainstream consumers until the PS2's game abilities are obsolete.=no one needs Blu-Ray, or wireless internet, or HD output etc etc

And if anyone read the other pages, one of this guys other points was this:
"1. DVD is nothing special... as games use less and less FMV and more and more realtime graphics, that extra space is useless. Space requirements are actually coming down this generation. There's no need for all that storage space for all that FMV... you can just make good graphics in realtime." Yeah, yeah, so that's why we ended up with over 4gb of data per DVD, as opposed to less than a CD, now where have we heard extra space isn't needed?

So that goes to show you shouldn't predict what happens too early...



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Dallinor said:
Dolla Dolla said:
Just goes to show you can't make great predictions before a console launches. Who knows what will happen after it finally makes it to market ...

Or when it picks up steam.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS&reg3=All&align=1


That chart is deceptive. For one, it doesn't look accurate. It lists the PS2 as selling less than 70 million and the PS selling less than 20 million unless something is wrong with my browser. The PS2 has sold almost 120 million and the PS 100 million. Also, the PS2 sales would be slower at first because it was at first only released in Japan and was released in the U.S. further away from the holiday season. Predicting the sales of the PS3 based on the PS2 would work a lot better if they both launched at the same time in the same countries.

This chart is a little more revealing: http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS2&reg3=All&align=1&weekly=1

It shows the PS2 sales going way up after the holiday season while the PS3 sales plummeted.

From what I'm getting from message boards the PS2 sold 10.61 million in its first year, the PS3 will not sell even close to that.

As for that post in the topic, there are quite a few things wrong with it. For one, the PS2 launched for $300 not $375. $375 would have really hurt its sales, although not nearly as much as if it were released for $600

Another thing, the Dreamcast really left the race because SEGA lost so much money. It sold pretty well and had a very good collection of games. Also, even though it was cheaper, the PS2 was still very affordable. The Sony brand name was enough to give it huge sales regardless of the price. As for the Game Cube, it was only $100 cheaper and pretty soon the price of the PS2 went down to $200 so it became pretty trivial. It wasn't a case of a $250 system versus a $600 one. Basically, I think the predictions of most of the users on VGchartz are going to be more accurate than this guy's. At this point it looks pretty obvious as to what is going to happen this generation.