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bobobologna on 20 June 2008
rocketpig said:
Dogs Rule said:
rocketpig said:
Dunno, maybe I just have shit luck but no one is ever talking in games I play, whether it's Warhawk or MGO (the two games I have played the most on PSN).

It's weird that you would say that since I never received a response from you when I would say something to you in Warhawk.

Sometimes I can't be bothered with the headset and don't bother to use it.

I'm talking about the times when I actually do go through the effort of getting it charged, connected, and working.

 

 

Haha, I'm guilty of that as well.  I use my headset maybe half the time I play online games, maybe less.

SnakeEyez, actually both services allow the developer to set up dedicated servers.  Frontline: Fuels of War and Battlefield 2: Modern Combat for the XBox360 both have dedicated servers.  It's just that the high profile PS3 games feature dedicated servers (Warhawk and Resistance 1), while neither of the XBox360's high profile games feature dedicated servers (Halo 3 and Gears of War).  Call of Duty 4 on both systems has user hosted games.



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makingmusic476 on 20 June 2008

Steam. :D

Alright, PSN. Dedicated servers, soon we're getting in-game XMB, and most importantly, it's FREE!



makingmusic476 on 20 June 2008
mrstickball said:
Could it be that for $50, I'm paying for the fact that XBL has about 10 times the content that PSN has?

 

Don't all XBL members have access to this content?  Silver or Gold? 

As far as I am aware, you're just paying to play online. In since most games are P2P, you're essentially paying MS to let you use your own 360s and your own internet connections to play online.



windbane on 20 June 2008

Including a headset with the 360 was a good move. It doesn't make up for dropping a HD in 1 SKU, but it helps for online gaming. I don't know why more people don't have headsets since just about any kind works with PS3...

It's also true that the average age of PS3 owners are older than 360 users, so there are fewer annoying kids. That's what I hear from IGN and 1UP podcasts all the time, too.

I would rather have more annoying people that I can mute than fewer people with headsets, so Live does have that advantage.



I would like to know what all this extra content people are talking about is. I don't count movie rentals/purchases because they are a ripoff compaed to what I can get with netflix or blockbuster. I understand the convenience, although you do have to wait for a download, but you don't get special features and rentals only get you 24 hours. If I'm going to download lower quality, I'll use bittorrent...but if that's the extra content, fine, Live wins that...but...

Look at the amount of content this week on PSN: a game, 4 demos, tons of trailers for games and movies, add-on content, MGS database, etc. Does Live really get that much? Also, for half the price of Live for a year, you can get Qore which is going to have even more content and beta invites.

I would say at this moment XBL is better, but after the 2.40 update I think the edge is clearly with PSN. As Rocketpig and others have said, dedicated servers are a huge bonus for PSN. Also, I downloaded several gigs from the update tonight. The last month, at least, I've gotten full speed from my router on downloads. Great speed lately.



Profcrab on 20 June 2008

One thing that does need to be cleared up as many people do asume that all games on PSN are on dedicated servers, they are not. Some games are, some games are not. For some games, PSN does act as only a matchmaker. Typically it is the Sony first party games that have dedicated servers. After that it is a bit spotty. This has been proven by people analyzing network traffic coming from their PS3.

That being said, it would be nice if XBL had more options to run dedicated servers or Microsoft ran some dedicated servers themselves. User hosted games usually have the host advantage problem. The solution that I would love (but this would never, ever, happen) is for the option to run dedicated servers on PCs that connect to XBL through the Live service.

PSN still has a ways to go to catch up on features. Overall it is nice to see competition driving the evolution of features. When PSN gets closer to XBL it will prod Microsoft to add more features to XBL and possibly lower it's price. Of course it could go the other way too and it could prove too expensive for Sony to implement many of the changes and they may have to start charging for enhanced features in PSN. Just have to see how it all plays out.

I give this thread a 9.3.



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thekitchensink on 20 June 2008
ssj12 said:
thekitchensink said:
ssj12 said:
rocketpig said:
Well, I'll have to wait for 2.40 but assuming everything in it works well, it's pretty even in my eyes.

XBL:
Tons of content
People actually chat with each other in-game
Great online-enabled game selection
XBLA

PSN:
Dedicated servers (fuck you, Microsoft)
Free
Full game purchases on PSN

I still prefer the layout of the Dashboard but the in-game XMB might change that. I really want to play around with it to see how Sony implements it all. I don't give two shits about Home and I really hope Sony doesn't force us to boot into the "game" to use some of the PSN features. I want to get into a game quick and dirty, not jump into a social program to organize a game with friends.

is that really a good thing? The XBL community is still way to young to be talking online. Its like PC was in the first age of voice chat.

Basically what I mean by this is simply to many immature tards whining when they lose or talking themselves up like they are gods.

I just spent an hour looking for a video for PSN cry babies and whiners but found nothing... lol

CS;S has some nubs still but not many. With so many online gamers there are bound to be some 10 year olds whining about something.

 

You should be in PR, Mr. Spinmaster--the reason you don't find "PSN cry babies" is because you barely find "PSN talkers".

 

 

You know whats funny, I'm one of the PR managers for this site. =P

Wow, I'm sorry dude--I was in a BAAAAD mood last night

 

But I stand by my main point--of course you find more assholes on Live, because you find more people talking in general.

 



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akuma587 on 20 June 2008

PSN cause its FREE.

PSN also has dedicated servers.

PSN needs in game messaging and shit through the XMB, but at least Sony is FINALLY fixing that. It took too damn long.

I personally am very partial to the XMB and not a fan of the dashboard, but that is my own tastes rather than one actually being significantly better than the other.

Sony does need to get off their asses and make a movie/TV download service, not that I will ever actually use it...



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ChronotriggerJM on 20 June 2008

I generally like PSN a ton more because like the herd of sheep mention, it's free. I'm not a very big fan of online gaming, and I only really play one game online :x Warhawk XD So I wouldn't be able to justify the purchase for online gaming. That, and I think about how many years I will own my console, and I just think to myself, man, after 4 years of gaming on xbl, I'd have shelled out $200 just to play online ;-; While not a ton of money considering the time frame, that could be a Wii, or a lot of alcohol :D

And I'm definitely with Rocketpig on this one, I think Sony should have included a blue-tooth headset with every console, there are a few active servers in warhawk that have a ton of people talking, but the vast majority of them are quieter than a church. Definitely bad. I personally love hearing the whining kids :P It gives me so much joy to hear them so upset over something so pathetic XD

But also on the agreeing side of Rocket, I NEED dedicated servers x.x It's just not right that the PS3 can hold a higher player count, with less lag, and still be free >



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Dallinor on 20 June 2008

1. In-game XMB.

2. An official headset from Sony.

3. Decent voice-chat quality.

These are the only issues I have with PSN. Otherwise, I find it easy to navigate and lag-free. The fact that it doesn't require a subscription charge is of course, a big plus.



 

Q_A_X on 21 June 2008

PSN > Live.

Why the hell does MS expect you to pay? It's pathetic.

Good for Sony that they offer free online gaming.



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