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so impressed and happy for you ioi. haters can go to hell. xD



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MontanaHatchet said:
Let's not hate on NPD now. They're doing a fine job. Can't all the tracking services just get along?

Why can't X360 owners just be happy that Metal Gear Solid 4 sold well on Ps3?

Why can't people on the Internet be happy that Carnival Games is selling great?

 

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

Great work, sales figures like this should be free instead of having to be paid for, especially since all analysts seem to do is make a guess based on previous figures then change them as soon as they realise they are incorrect.

It will be a pity when this site gets so big that ioi is tempted to part with it by a large increase in his bank balance offered by some multi-national company....I wonder if this will ever happen.



This is great. Congratulations to ioi and everyone who contributes to the site.



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Finally, VGC gets the respect it deserves.

Fanboys at GAF... begin eating crow!



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ItsaMii said:
The first comment make puke a little:


meister [06.17.08 03:25 AM]

Interesting article but you really should do more homework before you author stories like these.

vgchartz.com is all about smoke and mirrors. He continually lies to his visitors. I can explain his real history in great detail if you're interested but Brett Walton, the site's founder, is nothing more than a petty manipulator and illusionist. The problem is, he sees nothing wrong with what he's doing. It really does boil down to the fact that his visitors believe what he's posted in his "Methodology" section. For the record, he's lying to his visitors. He doesn't collect data from retailers. All of vgchartz's figures are guesstimates. He TAKES charted information and best sellers lists from online stores like Amazon (this is how he's able to get a ballpark Top 10 list each week/month), and from stores like Wal-mart, Target and Gamecrazy, then fits that data to chart positions, using publicly available historical information from NPD, Famitsu and other reputable firms for reference. In reality, he uses public chart positions, press releases and shipment figures to come up with sales figures. Don't believe any of this? Ask him!

This is NOT Brett Walton's (vgchartz) proprietary information, nor is this information something that a real analyst couldn't compile with a little hard work and common sense but at the end of the day it's all about making it easy. Ahhh, that's why we have to love the Internet. There's no longer a need for integrity. Just point and shoot ... I mean, click.

vgchartz's information belongs to the market research firms and retailers he's lifting it from. He should give credit where credit is due. He's making a name for himself off the hard work of others. Wal-Mart, Target, GameCrazy, NPD, Famitsu, Chart Track, Amazon ... the list is large but not nearly as large as Brett Walton's ego.

Cards on the table, when there's a dispute between VGChartz's numbers and those of the NPD/Media Create, I always go for the latter's. And if a person was on mind to, he could cherry-pick his way through VGChartz's numbers and say "see, it's way off!" as there are a few games where the numbers just don't add up.

That said, if you guys really are just guessing numbers, then can you kindly guess me some lotto numbers too? The analyst's praise is well-deserved, and I'm grateful for the data being provided on a free and timely manner. So congratulations people, and thanks for all the hard work.

 



Those were some nice compliments.

About the meister comments, well regardless of NPD's obvious interest on having this site gone I've always said there's very little transparency about the numbers. Ioi and vgchartz could earn a bit thumbs up if they were more open about the raw data - maybe an expanded methodology section is in due order? Not because of what meister said, but because transparency is good.





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DKII said:

Robert Passarella has spent over 18-years on Wall Street.

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AWESOME.

 

Quick, somebody post this on gaf asap.

 

This is literally the best article I've ever read.



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