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Forums - Nintendo - Super Mario Sluggers was more casual control than Wii Sports baseball NOOOO

  1. Soon after a game is released people find a "way around" the overly large gestures because they get "Wii Arm" as my sister calls it; in Boom Blox everyone (except for the young children) have adopted the Wrist Flick throw because it is less painfull and can be done sitting.
  2. This sounds more true to the series, and can offer a (much) more balanced gameply experience.

 



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disolitude said:
nordlead said:
anyone who thinks you don't need a flick of the wrist to play Wii Sports baseball is fooling themselves. I can pitch a 90mph (or whatever the top speeds are) fast ball just with a fast flick of the wrist, and in fact that is how I hide my fastballs. Flick the wrist, yet do the motion like your going to do a change-up.

You can bat pretty good without actually swinging too.

Also, in bowling...if you flip the wii mote, you can jsut flick your wrist and get a strike every time. I love cheating in casual games... :)

 

How do you do that? Can you teach me how? I cant even strike that frequently

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

RolStoppable said:
yushire said:
Come to think of it, will Malstrom post this on his news section? Think so, to explain what bdbdbd's already explained.

No, Malstrom is going on vacation for a couple of months. As much as I like to read his news and articles, I am glad that he is gone for a while. This will save us a lot of headaches on this forum, because you won't be able to create threads upon threads with misinterpretations of what he is saying.

Yeah I know, I am mean, but it had to be said.

 

Im not making threads about him anymore, have you seen any threads of mine about malstrom's articles/news recently? Though Im posting on threads about him like right now but I can stop that if you want to. Come to think of it Im stopping now

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

RolStoppable said:
yushire said:
Come to think of it, will Malstrom post this on his news section? Think so, to explain what bdbdbd's already explained.

No, Malstrom is going on vacation for a couple of months. As much as I like to read his news and articles, I am glad that he is gone for a while. This will save us a lot of headaches on this forum, because you won't be able to create threads upon threads with misinterpretations of what he is saying.

Yeah I know, I am mean, but it had to be said.


This actually is for yushire, but quoted this, because i kinda agree here. But it's not just yushire. For example the Malstrom-Ubi thread yesterday made me want to bang my head against the wall from time to time. And @yushire: It's not just upstreaming, it's downstreaming as well. The controls have been "gimped down" for the Mario Baseball fans too. It's teaching them to learn and enjoy the new control method. In the thread i just mentioned, i pointed out, that instead of making games for certain groups, Nintendo aims to expand the groups itself, by making new and old gamers to enjoy different kind of games. Edit: By different kind of games, i mean different from the games they already have used to play.

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the youtube video got me excited for this game, it looks like loads of fun. And I always swing away, even if they tell me a flick of the wrist is enought, I'm going for the fences!



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bdbdbd said:
RolStoppable said:
yushire said:
Come to think of it, will Malstrom post this on his news section? Think so, to explain what bdbdbd's already explained.

No, Malstrom is going on vacation for a couple of months. As much as I like to read his news and articles, I am glad that he is gone for a while. This will save us a lot of headaches on this forum, because you won't be able to create threads upon threads with misinterpretations of what he is saying.

Yeah I know, I am mean, but it had to be said.


 

This actually is for yushire, but quoted this, because i kinda agree here. But it's not just yushire. For example the Malstrom-Ubi thread yesterday made me want to bang my head against the wall from time to time. And @yushire: It's not just upstreaming, it's downstreaming as well. The controls have been "gimped down" for the Mario Baseball fans too. It's teaching them to learn and enjoy the new control method. In the thread i just mentioned, i pointed out, that instead of making games for certain groups, Nintendo aims to expand the groups itself, by making new and old gamers to enjoy different kind of games. Edit: By different kind of games, i mean different from the games they already have used to play.

 

I've read all the posts in ubi-malsrom thread when you mentioned it, my mind was in limbo afterwards. What are they discussing again? I dont get it.

OT: YEAH, I remember what you say about upstreaming the non gamer and downstreaming the core gamer to learn the basics of the wii remote. No wonder there is no nunchuk on this game this time around, this is the reason why I said that this game is more casual than Wii Sports. No analog stick and no button to press just the a button.

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

I give this thread a 1.5



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yushire said:
bdbdbd said:
RolStoppable said:
yushire said:
Come to think of it, will Malstrom post this on his news section? Think so, to explain what bdbdbd's already explained.

No, Malstrom is going on vacation for a couple of months. As much as I like to read his news and articles, I am glad that he is gone for a while. This will save us a lot of headaches on this forum, because you won't be able to create threads upon threads with misinterpretations of what he is saying.

Yeah I know, I am mean, but it had to be said.


 

This actually is for yushire, but quoted this, because i kinda agree here. But it's not just yushire. For example the Malstrom-Ubi thread yesterday made me want to bang my head against the wall from time to time. And @yushire: It's not just upstreaming, it's downstreaming as well. The controls have been "gimped down" for the Mario Baseball fans too. It's teaching them to learn and enjoy the new control method. In the thread i just mentioned, i pointed out, that instead of making games for certain groups, Nintendo aims to expand the groups itself, by making new and old gamers to enjoy different kind of games. Edit: By different kind of games, i mean different from the games they already have used to play.

 

I've read all the posts in ubi-malsrom thread when you mentioned it, my mind was in limbo afterwards. What are they discussing again? I dont get it.

OT: YEAH, I remember what you say about upstreaming the non gamer and downstreaming the core gamer to learn the basics of the wii remote. No wonder there is no nunchuk on this game this time around, this is the reason why I said that this game is more casual than Wii Sports. No analog stick and no button to press just the a button.

 


The thread was closing "i'm gonna tell my mama" level from time to time. In the thread i said (i was really tired when i wrote it), using Mario Kart and F-Zero as examples, that first Nintendo releases Mario Kart, which lures in new customers with its easy controls and fun gameplay, it sells X number of units. Then Nintendo releases F-Zero (traditionally more "hardcore" title), which sells Y number of units for its target audience. But, since Nintendo lured in new gamers with Mario Kart, F-Zero is going to get Z number of additional sales from this new audience. As you can see, this aims maximising your profits. This model i just described, is opposite for the mindset that most of the publishers, and apparently most of the gamers, currently have, who sees that the "casual" gamers stay as "casual" gamers and "hardcore" gamers stay as "hardcore" gamers, when all the games are made only these groups in mind. Which means less sales, when there's million "casual" gamers and million "hardcore" gamers, targeting only one group is leading only to one million sales, when making a bridge title could reach two million. When you have successfully managed to upstream and downstream, all the games have the two million audience, and that's where Nintendo is heading at.

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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

All I knew about this game was from Matt and Bozon's bitching in the IGN podcast. After watching the video I'm now interested in the game, it could be great fun. There was a time when I trusted the IGN Nintendo team, but that's changed. For multiplayer games I don't trust any reviewers anymore.



@yushire: By the way, where did you need the analog stick in Wii Sports? The only game that used nunchuck was boxing and when you passed the ball in Wii Sports baseball, you just pushed different buttons to make a curveball etc.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.