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That would be like saying that Halo is the source of the 360's power, what is left of it, or that mario galaxy is the source of the wii's power....no it isn't any one thing, but a combination of several factors, namely: ability to execute affordable pricing and to what degree it is affordable, ability to attract online users, ability to attract developers, worldwide strength of brand, technological longevity or will the console's users be bored/angry (like the rrod issue)  with the console after a little while?



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ssj12 said:
Your missing so many titles on the MGS franchise... MGS3: Subsistence.. where is it?

 All of the other titles sold far, far less than these three, which is why I didn't show them. But, if you would like; Here are all of hte MGS titles released on a PS system. This just displays my point further that MGS is not a system seller.

PosGameConsolePublisherHitsScoreSales
1
Metal Gear SolidKonami9,7707.825.59m
2
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of LibertyKonami10,5877.855.56m
3
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake EaterKonami13,7147.873.97m
4
Metal Gear Solid: Portable OpsKonami4,7997.721.04m
5
Metal Gear Solid 3: SubsistenceKonami4,2897.600.47m
6
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops PlusKonami2,2497.780.28m
7
Metal Gear Solid 2: SubstanceKonami1,7087.300.16m
8
Metal Gear Solid IntegralKonami3977.550.10m
9
       
10
Metal Gear Solid: The Essential CollectionKonami59510.000.05m
11
Metal Gear Solid: Digital Graphic NovelKonami4037.580.04m
12
Metal Gear Solid 20th Anniversary: Metal Gear Solid Collection Konami8998.410.03m
13
Metal Gear Solid Comic BookKonami4428.190.00m
14
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Konami37,6148.010.00m
15       
16       
17
Metal Gear Solid VR MissionsKonami6187.560.00m
18       
19
Document of Metal Gear Solid 2Konami2387.790.00m

 



I think people are worried, because it's only tracking as well as the PS2 did. At this rate, it's doomed to only sell 120 million consoles. It needs a game to save it.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weeks=102



Euphoria14 said:
mmnin said:
I'm glad you brought this up. I'm getting tired of all the empty claims too.

Actually they aren't really empty. The TC fails to accept the fact that in the PS3 in Others since the arrival of GT5:p has had a long lasting 20k+ increase in sales per week.

He says no game(s) has shown a long lasting effect, yet he is wrong. A larger library of high quality games will only increase sales more.

Then consider the price of the console compared to the competition.

For all we know, in a few weeks the TC could beating some MAJOR crow.


1. My thread was about WW sales, not 1 territory. WW PS3 sales have actually declined since the beginning of the year.

2. My point has been focused on dramatic changes. Not  <10k per week, that has also been on decline since GT5P released. Look at the chart. PS3 went from an average of 73k to 125kat launch down quickly to 82k 2weeks later to another big launch game and peaking at 182k and now 80k again. At best that's a 7k change. But, it has only been 2 weeks. I bet in another 4 weeks we will be back to the low 70's, i.e. normal.

So, I was not wrong. But, your bolded part is the whole point of my thread. ONE game will not show a lasting affect. But, like in 2007 a slew of changes and games can. 

I will not be eating crow come Jan 2009 when the PS3 is still behind WW figure of the 360 and as 2008 moves on we will see no major shift in PS3's sales throughput compared to this year.

I beg any of you to save this post until June 2009.

Right now PS3 cannot break the 200k WW average. If one month (week of July 19th)  after MGS4 releases the PS3 has a sustained WW average greater than 200k I will eat crow.



i think it will help it sell a bit,but it wont change the war



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MontanaHatchet said:
Why do Nintendo fans view desperate fanboys as the voice of a certain console's owners?

There, I said it.

I know and sadly it makes them seem scared and desperate, as if the things that some say might comne to fruition. Honestly, if you are a Wii fanboy assumptions made by a few should not even phase you. If you are confident the WII is gonna dominate the rest of the generation what do you care about what MGS or any game on the PS3 does or doesn't do?

windbane said:
PS3 does not need a savior. All great games such as MGS4 will help sales.

This thread was stupid and pointless. Would you say Gears of War didn't help the 360 sell consoles? It didn't sell more than MGS1 or MGS2.

Yet.  By the end of the 360's lifetime it will have outsold them all individually.  

 

With regards to the OP, I haven't actually heard anything sounding like MGS4 was being considered the PS3's "savior."  Last year all you heard was "just wait until GT5:P, MGS4, GTA4, etc..." I haven't heard anything like that for some months.  PS3 fans (at least the rational ones) have accepted that the PS3 won't skyrocket to dominance overnight, but it will have steady sales and eventually wind up second.  Games like MGS4 are no longer being thought of as jumper cables, but rather as extra cans of gas for a long trip.  

 (sorry if that last analogy sucks, it's all I could think of) 



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TheRealMafoo said:
I think people are worried, because it's only tracking as well as the PS2 did. At this rate, it's doomed to only sell 120 million consoles. It needs a game to save it.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weeks=102

Hehe. 

Try aligning regional launches.

 

 



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GTA IV was it's biggest game. People have to understand that PS3 is going to be number two. That's all there is to it. It doesn't have a "savior". It will increase sales a little bit but nothing like GTA IV.



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