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bbsin said:

This guy includes some spoilers in his review, BE WARNED!!!

Anyways, It seems like this review has never been a big fan of MGS in the past. From what I read, he's basically saying that MGS4 has gameplay that has advanced alot from the previous MGS games but hasn't been changed enough for his liking. He also keeps bringing up that he thinks players that have always disliked MGS before will continue to do so. And he concludes with MGS4 including some of the most classic moments in gaming and "exquisite" game elements, and even with that said, he's glad that this is the end of MG.

Oli Welsh's (the reviewer) entire review resume has been MarioKartWii (8/10), Army of Two , a re-review of WOW and Pirates of the burning sea . Based on his source history, he's pretty new at Eurogamer as his articles points to him joining the staff on February of this year.

 


I dunno how you can attempt to marginalize his review here when you were so stern on an obviously faulty reviews of another game, Ninja Gaiden 2.

 

Perhaps you are simply a MGS fan and don't want to admit that this isn't the best game ever created according to everyone. 



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It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

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A website was honest on their assessment of your first AAA title baby. Heaven forbid eh?

There was a lot of detail for a spoiler-free review, and there were a lot of positive points. Its just you guys choose to hone in on the bad points because it 'offends' you. It is still a very high score for a typically harsh reviewer.



^I don't think people have a problem with the score but the way it seems that the guy should not be reviewing the game in the first place....

I'm trying to be objective about it and 8/10 is a decent score, but the way he closed the review points to the fact that he scored it down only because it's an MGS game.



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Actually, after reading the last page of that review, I've changed my mind. That last page is pretty insulting. I really do despise this guy, now.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

I honestly dont think that someone who does not like that style of games should be reviewing it



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I don't see the problem. 8/10 is a good score. Just because everyone seems to be expecting it to get 10/10. Does it really matter? Would it stop you buying it? Probably not.



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Can we please stop discussing reviews? I thought that after the GTA IV debacle everyone learned his lesson.

If you let a review (an 8 nonetheless) ruin your fun with the game you're a total idiot.

And can people also stop saying that a certain reviewer should not review a game? That's ridiculous. A review is AN OPINION. It's biased by definition.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
bbsin said:

This guy includes some spoilers in his review, BE WARNED!!!

Anyways, It seems like this review has never been a big fan of MGS in the past. From what I read, he's basically saying that MGS4 has gameplay that has advanced alot from the previous MGS games but hasn't been changed enough for his liking. He also keeps bringing up that he thinks players that have always disliked MGS before will continue to do so. And he concludes with MGS4 including some of the most classic moments in gaming and "exquisite" game elements, and even with that said, he's glad that this is the end of MG.

Oli Welsh's (the reviewer) entire review resume has been MarioKartWii (8/10), Army of Two , a re-review of WOW and Pirates of the burning sea . Based on his source history, he's pretty new at Eurogamer as his articles points to him joining the staff on February of this year.

 


I dunno how you can attempt to marginalize his review here when you were so stern on an obviously faulty reviews of another game, Ninja Gaiden 2.


....excuse me? If you hadn't noticed, I agreed with the general opinions that some of the reviews of NG2 were suspicious, mainly due to complaints of difficulty. I clearly said that I would not disregard any multiplatform independent review source no matter what I thought of the reviewers' credibility since my goal was to simply create a thread with various reviews (which I did). Regardless, the main problem (as any unbiased person would tell you) about NG2 was it's camera, dated level design and at times, it's framerate. Those 3 negatives were constant in just about every review that I compiled on that thread. From what I'm reading here, the reviewer at Eurogamer is already going into MGS4 with a bad taste in his mouth, without pointing out any negative aspect that he later on would not ironicly defend with a positive remark. All this only to end with cheeky remarks that even though the game has some of the best "moments ever" with some of the most effectively unique "touches" he's ever seen, he's glad that the MGS series is over with.

I'm sorry Zen, but if you can't see the difference between this review and the NG2 reviews, then there's something wrong with you. EDIT: which I now see that you know why I'm suspicious over this guy, other than the point that he's new and possibly trying to make a name for himself.

As for this:

"Perhaps you are simply a MGS fan and don't want to admit that this isn't the best game ever created according to everyone. "

don't play with fire Zen, You don't know me nearly well enough to make baseless assumptions such as that. I don't rule out any opinions except for those of a fanboy's but that doesn't change the fact that I'd like to see some consistant reasons on why game "A" is "x/10".



if they wanted to help 360 , they should have reviewed NJ2 the same...

Btw, is going to be huge , by far the best game of PS3 this generation...



Check this out guys.
IGN UK 9.0 = Eurogamer 8/10
same reviewer, different score...