The definition I posted relates more to what we are saying than these definitions. "

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If we use this then any video game is  fantasy.

yes, that's why I say medieval versus tech, cause things that I call fantasy, are things that we don't have in our world: dragons, magic crystals, materia, moogles, summons, bahamut, floating cities etc. and that you can have just as well in a tech setting like you have it in a medieval setting.. of course you can use that other definition and call fantasy medieval by definition and linkit to that age and mages and stuff..

and from how I use the word fantasy, it's also more understandable why Square uses tech settings in their series that is called Final Fantasy, cause they probably also understand that it's not about the settings, but about the imaginary stuff they put in their worlds that make it Final Fantasy

@soriku

I can't stop laughing at that...

lets see what happens....personally I thought it was better than SHIVA or BAHAUMAT being a frikkin Airship (FF12)

its step up

"dragons, magic crystals, materia, moogles, summons, bahamut, floating cities etc"

All of those are in the medieval ones too.  I don't see where you get the conclusion that a more futuristic setting>medieval in terms of fantasy. You are mixing up scifi with fantasy. Fantasy most likely won't happen or never did, while science fiction may happen and could have happen. Fantasy deals more with magic and mythincal creatures, while scifi deals more with tecnology. No these genres do blend such in games or movies or books like final fantasy, but that doesn't mean that a more futuristic setting  is more relative to fantasy than a medieval. 

but I do understand now what you guys mean with medieval and mages being more 'fantasy', you are using the subcultural name used for those kind of stuff

 I agree here, but the main reason why I intervened with your posting, was that you said a more technological based setting is more relative to fantasy than a more medieval.

of course those are in the medieval settings too.. what I mean is that they can be in any setting.. or let me say that fantasy elements can be in any setting

For me Star Wars is more fantasy like than most of the FF's n even LOTR...

@Soriku

but say....the gungan city in the water (SW Ep 1), That planet where Obi-Wan kills grievous...The big Flower planet where Adi Galia dies...

That I feel is ALSO fantasy...not just swords, shields, dragons...