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LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:
cookingyourmama said:
Viper1 said:
Not to take this in a different direction but this reminds me of when Sony fans claim Nintendo makes too many game of the same franchises without realizing that Sony does it far worse.

I myself don't think it's a bad thing provided they sell well, I just love the irony.

What is this a joke??? Nintendo are far worse for releasing the same old games over and over again then sony are.

GC:

Mario - 1 title
Zelda - 3 titles
SSB - 1 title
Mario kart - 1 title
Metroid - 2 titles
Mario arty - 4 titles
Pikmin - 2 titles

PS2:

GTA - 5 titles
Socom - 4 titles
Jak - 4 titles
GoW - 2 titles
Ratchet - 5 titles
Hotshots Golf - 4 titles
ATV Off Road - 4 titles
Singstar - 17 titles
Getaway - 2 titles
Buzz - 11 titles
Amplitude - 2 titles
Ape Escape - 4 titles
Arc the Lad - 2 titles
Bleach - 4 titles
Gun Parade Orchestra - 3 titles
Sly Cooper - 3 titles


Now who's joking?


Just marked the 3rd-party ones, before someone uses those to invalidate your point. 

Oops, added an A to the end of GT....removed  That's for Gran Turismo, not GTA, and the other are published by Sony making them 2nd party releases which is rarely ever termed that way anymore instead using 1st party.

 



The rEVOLution is not being televised

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You're absolutely right.

 



Rock_on_2008 said:

PS3 will make a huge comeback and win with the 360 in a distant third place. Wii a close second place. The 360 can't do anything to stop the Wii and PS3 just flying past and into the distance.

 


Wrong(imo).

 

The 360 will squeek out a US win over the PS3, the PS3 will dominate the 360 in others, and both will suck forever in Japan.

 

The Wii, however, will definately dominate in the US, probably dominate in Others, and well, there is a 100 percent guarntee the Wii is the dominant console in Japan for now and evermore.

 

That's how I see it, at this point, extrapolating with no guess work invloved.

 

Who knows, maybe there will be a factor X. It certainly won't be one game if that game isn't GTAIV though. 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Rock_on, Fun Factoid of the night.

Wii has 6 million sold in all 3 regions. PS3 doesn't have 6 million sold in any of them.

I don't think the PS3 will be establishing its own sales oddities like that any time soon.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

the PS3 is 6 millions behind X360 in America, PS3 need to outsell the 360 100k a month and in 60 months(5 years) PS3 outsell the 360.



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MANUELF said:
the PS3 is 6 millions behind X360 in America, PS3 need to outsell the 360 100k a month and in 60 months(5 years) PS3 outsell the 360.

Well, PS3 fans would have you believe that the PS3 will sell better and 360 sell worse(than 100,000 a month in the us!?), also that the PS3 will be around for 10 years and other consoles 5(which wouldn't really be outselling anything, imo).



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

shams said:
The PS3 is still (almost) 7m units behind the 360 in the US - even at 30k per week, it would take around 4 years to overtake the 360.

MS have a lot more ammo than Sony for the rest of the year - there WILL be a newer, better model of the 360 - and there WILL be a price cut. Sales should explode around Xmas.

And lets not forget the small thing that is exclusive GTA content...

I'll be surprised if the 360 doesn't extend its lead (in the US) over the 360 by at LEAST 1m units by the end of the year.


For PS3 +30K pw advantage it will take ~4 years to ps3>x360. BUT Last year it was selling under the 360 - next year it may be selling 60K pw higher. Ps3 is the highest priced console so price cuts will have greatest impact.  Wii, x360 and Ps3 all will reduce price.

As for GTA4 ,x360 sold more SW BUT the PS3 got the HW boost thats hardly an advantage for the 360 !.

The ps3 has blu-ray , mgs4 , Motorstorm 2, gt5. Everyone especially nintendo is quite capable of price cutting so dont expect that to exclusively help just one console.

Blu-ray drive will be the same as a plain DVD drive for OEM's like sony- so ps3 can drop to the same price as the 360 eventually. With smaller chip's the 360 and Ps3 will be able to drop to almost the same price range as the Wii within 2 years.

MS and Sony may even realise that the games market is more than just traditional games and like nintendo may be able to gow the market as well.

Given a 5 year console growth cycle not even 2/5 way finnished to call the result is premature. The 360 got an early start, the Wii sprinted past, the Ps3 started slow but it's gaining on the 360 now. Lets just wait and see.

 



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Grampy said:
Scruff7 said:
agreed.

too much McDonalds, not enough serloin steak and frites...

 

Oh, the arrogance and conceit of those who refuse to realize that the Wii in fact represents the direction of the future and the X360 and PS3 are stuck in a past with inaccessible and overly complex controls which were gradually driving gamers and potential gamers away and shrinking the market.


 A lot of gourmet food and movies are basically catering to the deluded, arrogant, and conceited too. :P

 In America, it's Wii > X360 > PS3.  Sony will not catch up with MS in the US for at least 3 years.

 Worldwide it's a competition, but Sony would have to win by a lot more than 50k per week.



Viper1 said:
cookingyourmama said:
Viper1 said:
Not to take this in a different direction but this reminds me of when Sony fans claim Nintendo makes too many game of the same franchises without realizing that Sony does it far worse.

I myself don't think it's a bad thing provided they sell well, I just love the irony.

What is this a joke??? Nintendo are far worse for releasing the same old games over and over again then sony are.

GC:

Mario - 1 title
Zelda - 3 titles
SSB - 1 title
Mario Kart - 1 title
Metroid - 2 titles
Mario Party - 4 titles
Pikmin - 2 titles

PS2:

GT - 5 titles
Socom - 4 titles
Jak - 4 titles
GoW - 2 titles
Ratchet - 5 titles
Hotshots Golf - 4 titles
ATV Off Road - 4 titles
Singstar - 17 titles
Getaway - 2 titles
Buzz - 11 titles
Amplitude - 2 titles
Ape Escape - 4 titles
Arc the Lad - 2 titles
Bleach - 4 titles
Gun Parade Orchestra - 3 titles
Sly Cooper - 3 titles


Now who's joking?


If their was a roles eyes smiley i would use it round about now...

Apart from the fact that you've included a bunch of 3rd party games in your playstation list you're cherry picking the data and trying to forget that nintendo have been releasing the same old games since the nes. The reality is every generation nintendo just release the same old franchises over and over and over again and this doesn't even include handheld games:

Mario Main games - 8 titles

Mario spin offs - 20 titles 

Mario kart - 4 titles

Mario party - 8 titles 

Zelda - 7 titles 

Smash brothers - 3 titles

Metroid - 5 titles

Pikmin - 2 titles

Paper mario - 3 titles

Mario strikers - 2 titles

Mario tennis - 2 titles

Mario golf - 2 titles

Fire Emblem - 2 titles

Wave race - 2 titles

Star fox - 5 titles

Donkey kong - 8 titles

1080 snowboarding - 2 titles

Wario - 4 titles 

Battalion wars - 2 titles 

Then lets have a look at the new ip's nintendo have released so far this generation. Number of games 3 - wiisports, wiiplay and wiifit none of which are traditional games. Then you compare that to sony who have released 7 - uncharted, resistance, motorstorm, heavenly sword, folklore, eye of judgement and lair.

 

 

 



Wait, are you talking about sonce developed games, or sony published games?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.