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Stever89 on 15 May 2008
Gnizmo said:
Why in the world would I waste money on the piece of crap that is the Wii Wheel. I know of no one personally who actually likes to use that god awful contraption rather than using a GC controller. I have yet to try the Wiimote+Nunchuck combo, but it is bound to be better than the wheel. I tossed mine aside after the first GP and have never missed it. Even if I did, I can just turn a Wiimote sideways and get the exact same control scheme. It is just a circle of plastic.

I actually know a few people who are actually better with the wheel. Granted, they are part of the "non-gaming" demographic (which is why I complain when they beat us, and then I blame WiiFit and non-gamers). But I probably wouldn't waste my money on any additional wheels, unless they became popular enough in my group, which I doubt they will.

@Naznatips: +1.



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PSaiki on 15 May 2008

You don't need the wheels and is not necessary the classic controler on SSBB.
And most people who bought SSBB are Nintendo fans, so, great part of them own GC controllers. Those can use GC controllers or wiimote + nunchuck.

Not to mention that is becoming more likely to your friends own a Wii, so they could just bring their own controllers.



Gnizmo on 15 May 2008
Stever89 said:
 

I actually know a few people who are actually better with the wheel. Granted, they are part of the "non-gaming" demographic (which is why I complain when they beat us, and then I blame WiiFit and non-gamers). But I probably wouldn't waste my money on any additional wheels, unless they became popular enough in my group, which I doubt they will.

@Naznatips: +1.


 Your mistake was showing them the wheel at all. I tell them they can turn the wiimote on its side to play. I have seen a few experiment with the control scheme, but either social pressure or annoyance (I can't tell which) made them cave to the GC controller.



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Viper1 on 15 May 2008
BrainBoxLtd said:
Viper1 said:
BrainBoxLtd said:
Viper1 said:
X360 Premium - $349.99
X360 Wireless Controller - $39.88 x 3 = $119.64
X360 Wireless Network Adapter - $99.99.
X360 Play and Charge Kit - $19.99 x 4 = $79.96
X360 Intercooler - $19.99
X360 HDMI Cable - $49.99
X360 HDMI Converter - $59.99
X360 Wireless Racing Wheel - $99.99 x 4 = $399.96
X360 Xbox Live Gold 12 month - $59.99
X360 Game - $59.99

Total - $1,299.49

This is assuming you already have a HDTV and HD audio system since those are considered to be a "part of the experience".

Kwaad, what was your question again?

 Wait, you'll also need some additional headsets. Let's say three wireless ones for $50 each. And though the play-charge are good in a spot, you'll probably want a couple of Nyko Quick Charge kits too so you'll always have some extra batteries to go in the morning. Their $30 each. Need a messenger kit as well. Typing names for your Pinatas in Viva Pinata takes forever without it, that's another $30. Need a memory card as well, makes taking your profile and favorite arcade games to a friend's house so much faster than waiting for everything to download through the recover gamertag option, that's another $50. Need a vision cam for video chat and that cool face face mapping feature for the Rainbow Six series and PGA tour 08, that's only $40. Get 4000 Microsoft points for $50, wait will want to upgrade your premium's harddrive while you're at it to 120GB, that's another $180...


Come on, dude.  I was trying to leave Kwaad with a nickel or two in his pocket at least.  Now you're making him remortgage his home.


 Well if you want to deny him the full experience the 360 offers just for the sake of avoiding financial ruin fine. But it's clear that's what Kwaad wants evidenced by how essential all those Wii accessories are to him. I can't imagine how much you'd gimp his PS3 experience. 

Good point.  Let's bust his bank account more and add in that HDTV and HD audio system.   Don't feel like looking up prices so let's round things out to $2,000.00 for both.

So $3,500.00?

 

Hey Kwaad.  Will you loan me $3,500.00 so I can test drive the true X360 experience?  Hang on, I have a 5.1 sound system so I'll save you a few hundred.

 



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Sqrl on 15 May 2008

^^
I don't think you have to spend that much for a high quality system, I just finished mine and I spent about $1750 for everything from a top of the line 1080p LCD, 7.1 THX certified sound system, 2 Tuner HD DVR box, entirely new cables, and one of the best universal remotes on the market that allows anyone and everyone to operate it with one-touch ease.

edit: nm, I thought you were saying $3500 for just the A/V setup. Also I double checked some prices, I was off by a fair bit, the audio system was less than I thought, I got it about a year ago.



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FishyJoe on 16 May 2008

It's usually the anti-Nintendo people bringing up price all the time.

Most Nintendo fans have maintained price is not the primary factor for its success.



Kwaad on 16 May 2008
Sqrl said:

^^
I don't think you have to spend that much for a high quality system, I just finished mine and I spent about $1750 for everything from a top of the line 1080p LCD, 7.1 THX certified sound system, 2 Tuner HD DVR box, entirely new cables, and one of the best universal remotes on the market that allows anyone and everyone to operate it with one-touch ease.

edit: nm, I thought you were saying $3500 for just the A/V setup. Also I double checked some prices, I was off by a fair bit, the audio system was less than I thought, I got it about a year ago.


 If you spend less than 2000$ for your entire system, your really not getting a whole lot. I'm not saying to go do a Kwaad, and wait till it comes out on BluRay, and watch it at home... cause it's better than the theater either.

But a "good" TV will cost you around 1500$, and then when you add the sound, your adding another 300-500$ (for a decent one.

 

And 7.1 is BS. It's a joke. It's a proven fact 7.1 is not noticeably better than a 5.1 The "9.1" that does not really exist, is just plain stupid.

Truthfully, a 4.1 is all you would ever need, but the 5th 'center' speaker is really nice, as it allows for a 'central' music from the front, without having to enlarge the other two, but truth-be-told, I really dont know why there isnt a 4.1

The only way I can warrent more than a 5.1, is if you put speakers above/below you. (wtf how would that work?) 



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eatrice on 16 May 2008

All you have proven is that if you want lots of choices on how to play, then you need to pay more money...what is so novel about that?

if you want to pay for four people to play your wii then yes you do need to buy 3 more wii motes.

if you want to pay for four people to play your wii for a game that uses numchucks you have to buy 3 more. (not many of those anyways)

if you want to buy: 3 wheels, 3 dance pads, 4 classic controllers, 4 gamecube controllers... and so on...

yes it costs more if you want more... want more = pay more ...suprising...

last time i checked, it was nice to have options...



DKII on 16 May 2008

I have 25 Wii games and 0 PS3 or 360 games, damn that Wii is expensive!



scottie on 16 May 2008
Kwaad said:

With the Wii continuing to come out with new 'attachments' And requires so much to play as well, are things getting out of control?

 

For a 'party' Wii system. (what it's for right?)

We will need to buy...

1x Wii - 249.99
3x Wiimote - 39.99*3= 119.97
3x Nun-chuck - 19.99*3= 59.97

429.93

That is what a Wii system will run you today. As things are starting to progress, we are losing our ability to keep downloaded stuff on our Wii? We are out of space, with old classic games! The new Wii-Ware is pushing the data so far beyond the hardware, it's not funny. Soon, we will be faced with 2 choices. 1. Start downloading only what we are playing, and second... well, spend 50-100$ for a external HDD.

When you add in the base entry requirements, then add in the new 'HDD' that we will be needing...

We are looking at a painful number, very close to 500$ to get the system completely built.

Then there is the annoying trend, of games needing, special 'attachments' MK-Wii is a good example. If you wanna play 4-way, you will probibally want to pick up another 3, 9.99$ Wii-Wheel. Also, alot of games, you need, or will want the 'classic' controller. Which in the event of Smash, you would want 4... As the Wii-mote SUCKS on that game. So you add on, your 4 'classic' controllers, at 14.95!

We are quickly comming up on 600$ just for hardware.

On regards to the 360. Let's go with this one. It comes with your 20gb HDD, and the wireless controller. As let's use the 360 for the same situation, and play party games on it, to 'favor' the Wii in this, as the wii is meant for it, the 360, is more of a 'one person per console' online system.

1x X-Box 360 - 349.99
3x wireless controller - 39.99

Ok, and as far as the 360 goes, that's all I can think of needing... just about ever. And that comes to 469.96$.That's about 100$ cheaper, than the Wii!!!

How much more is the Wii gonna get that is 'necessary' to play the games?! (I do not count Wii-fit, as it is specific for the one game, and it 'expands' the original concept of the machine, and is not 'useful' in anything but the one application.

*jumps in a swimming pool to hide from the rapidly approaching firestorm*


You're not very smart

Buy Wii Play - it's an awesome deal

$429 is nothing, we in Australia pay approx $380 US dollars for just the Wii and a single wiimote+nunchuk

I bought my Wii at release - and have found no need for any classic controllers

You don't even know what the Wii's storage solution will be, maybe it will wirelessly stream your data to your computer. Anyway, I don't care about you - I already have an external harddrive. Surely most people either have one, or a USB memory stick

I own mario kart, and will never pay for 3 extra Wii Wheels - I'm fine using a Wiimote + nunchuck, or the gamecube controllers i had lying around, or using a Wiimote on its side pretending its in a wii wheel.

 

Now, moving on to how cheap the 360 is

you forgot to buy any games, the Wii comes with Wii sports and Wii Play comes with a Wiimote

you also forgot to shell out $60 a year for xbox live gold member ship, enjoy not being able to play your games online

oh wait, i forgot, you were too stupid to buy games.

 

Well done, you have spent $469.96 on a paperweight

 

The real count is as follows

Wii - $249

Wii Play (I'm just guessing how much you pay for it) $299

2 Wii Motes $379

3 nunchuks $439

Total $439

 

To get the equivalent on a 360

Console + 3 extra controllers $470

2 Games $570

3 years of xbox live Gold membership $720

Total $720

 

You sure put Nintendo in their place