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Forums - Gaming Discussion - MGS4 -9 hours of cinematics, 21 hours gameplay=30 hour game. Good or bad?

Hey TinouX,
from where you take this numbers? 21h gameplay!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/news.html?sid=6190944&tag=top_stories;story;0

"After the trailer, Kojima showed some live MGS4 gameplay and unveiled new information. The demonstration ran for about 40 minutes with an experienced staff playing the game, and Kojima mentioned that they're showing off only about one-fifteenth of the whole game."

So ... 40min x 15 = 600 min
600 min / 60 = 10h

21h or 10h ?



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Riachu said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Riachu said:
dtewi said:
Soriku, it's ironic you're saying that cutscenes are bad.

Didn't we watch half of Kingdom Hearts II?

Yes we did. Kingdom Hearts II was a very story heavy game. Lenghty cutscenes IMO are not that bad if the story is good.


When did "very story heavy" come to mean "lengthy cutscenes?"

Story heavy means that there is a lot of cutscenes and look at the examples. i.e. Xenosaga, Xenogears, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts II They all have lenghty cutscenes

 

And none of those have a great story.

Kojima is doing the mistake of presenting MGS4's story like a movie rather than an interactive experience. He did it pretty good on MGS1 with a good balance, but the rest afterwards has shown he does not know how to incorporate a story-centric design in an action game. He should've just looked at Deus Ex to see how to not rely only on cutscenes/dialogue scenes to tell the entire story. Even better if he looked at the Half-Life series.

9h of cutscenes is overkill.



At the moment game play to cuts scenes stands at 70% to 30%. Imagine if it was 21 hours cut scenes and only 9 hours game play. Now that would be an overkill.



shio the source is some screenshots from Offical playstation Magazine where the reporter said he used 29 hours and 6 min to complete the game, while 9 hours of them were cutscenes.



Rock_on_2008 said:
At the moment game play to cuts scenes stands at 70% to 30%. Imagine if it was 21 hours cut scenes and only 9 hours game play. Now that would be an overkill.


No, 9 hours of cutscenes is a total overkill... 30% is too much. And the worst part is it's deviating too much from a game's perspective, and become more of a movie experience.

Even Adventure games (the genre is known to be the most story-centric) are nowhere near that. Just look at Grim Fandango, where cutscenes are much less than 30%.



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Kojima has shown he knows what he's doing. MGS1, 2, and 3 were masterpieces of gaming.



windbane said:
Kojima has shown he knows what he's doing. MGS1, 2, and 3 were masterpieces of gaming.
Nope. MGS1 is the only one I recognize is a very good game, but still not as good as Thief 2. MGS2 and 3 just followed the hype and are nowhere near as good as the first 1.

 



shio said:
windbane said:
Kojima has shown he knows what he's doing. MGS1, 2, and 3 were masterpieces of gaming.
Nope. MGS1 is the only one I recognize is a very good game, but still not as good as Thief 2. MGS2 and 3 just followed the hype and are nowhere near as good as the first 1.

 

Agreed that is kind of like most series: take Halo series and DMC series. They both peaked with first game in the series and fell away. Movies are sinilar the original is often the best in the series and the sequels just have something lacking compared to the original- been there seen it all before.

 



Its important that you add in my opinion shio, your presenting your opinions like they're pure facts. I actually liked MGS2 better than MGS1. Heres the link to the source btw: http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots/news/metal-gear-solid-4-the-first-review-is-out/a-20080512143146234035/g-20051216153655522074/p-3



You can skip AND pause the cutscenes... If you don't like them then you skip them. (it would be like playing any other game with little storyline and confusing objectives...)

If you like them you watch them and even pause them for a piss.

It should cater for everyone as long as the gameplay is robust enough... and 21 hours of it is more than most current gen games out there....

So stop f*cking complaining like babies........



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