China earthquake death toll hits 8,700

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kingofwale on 12 May 2008

How many of those buildings were actually built in China? And to that.. how many percent of total building constructions?

Again, I don't doubt Chinese's ability to make amazing building. What I am doubting is their ability to make even the most basic ones. No, not for lack of technology or labour skills, but their willingness.

Government kickbacks are MASSIVE and well-documented by foreign media, Buildings were made with less densed concrete than requirement to save money. People's lives are now lost because of it.

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selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878

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konnichiwa on 12 May 2008

kingofwale said:
How many of those buildings were actually built in China? And to that.. how many percent of total building constructions?

Again, I don't doubt Chinese's ability to make amazing building. What I am doubting is their ability to make even the most basic ones. No, not for lack of technology or labour skills, but their willingness.

Government kickbacks are MASSIVE and well-documented by foreign media, Buildings were made with less densed concrete than requirement to save money. People's lives are now lost because of it.

You are asking information that will be hard to find broand that I don't know and can't check.

If this interest you so much check this site:

http://shanghaiist.com/2008/05/12/earthquake-hits-wenchuan-sichuan.php

It is a blog that is updated with the last news about it.

Edit:

UPDATE 29, 5:30pm: Two earthquakes measuring 5.7 and 4.4 hit the oceans off Taiwan's Hualian between 3:42 am and 5:11am on 11 May. (BBC just said "at least five" have died.)

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kingofwale on 12 May 2008

konnichiwa said:

kingofwale said:
How many of those buildings were actually built in China? And to that.. how many percent of total building constructions?

Again, I don't doubt Chinese's ability to make amazing building. What I am doubting is their ability to make even the most basic ones. No, not for lack of technology or labour skills, but their willingness.

Government kickbacks are MASSIVE and well-documented by foreign media, Buildings were made with less densed concrete than requirement to save money. People's lives are now lost because of it.

You are asking information that will be hard to find broand that I don't know and can't check.

If this interest you so much check this site:

http://shanghaiist.com/2008/05/12/earthquake-hits-wenchuan-sichuan.php

It is a blog that is updated with the last news about it.

Edit:

UPDATE 29, 5:30pm: Two earthquakes measuring 5.7 and 4.4 hit the oceans off Taiwan's Hualian between 3:42 am and 5:11am on 11 May. (BBC just said "at least five" have died.)

It's not hard to find those at all

http://jleo.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/12/1/167

http://china-economics-blog.blogspot.com/2007/09/research-paper-construction-corruption.html

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-12/12/content_757215.htm

Last link was from official Chinese website.

Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878

Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)

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hsrob on 13 May 2008

Now unless i missed something, this whole back and forth started from a photo that was taken in Wuhan, 800km from Chengdu, several years ago ("Wuhan was full of houses like this when I was there a few years ago"), yet IT became the focus of discussion.

I live right next to Wuhan and most people didn't even feel the earthquake here yesterday. There are no gaping holes in the ground here.

Comparing China to Japan (or America) in regards to building quality is ridiculous. Japan is one of the richest most technologically advanced societies on earth and the whole country is built on a massive fault line meaning they get >1000 quakes a year. China is a DEVELOPING country and communist party or not it would be stupid to expect them to uphold the same standards, especially considering earthquakes are relatively uncommon here.

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Copycon on 13 May 2008

hsrob said:
Now unless i missed something, this whole back and forth started from a photo that was taken in Wuhan, 800km from Chengdu, several years ago ("Wuhan was full of houses like this when I was there a few years ago"), yet IT became the focus of discussion.

Thanks