......maybe I should've put a smile or a "j/k" to show the joking/sarcasm.......I think I will

First I did respond to all of your post, again you're not following what was said.  The only portion I didn't respond to there was the portion that was part of your original post.  Again your edit was the problem. 

Second, don't put words in my mouth,  the problem stemmed from your edit and your inability to figure out what I was referring to. That is a fact. If that is insulting to you then don't do it.  

I'm not trying insulting you, I'm simply pointing these things out. Perhaps something is lost in text but if you think I'm yelling at you you're missreading what I'm saying. 

 I believe No more Heroes should sell better, as well as Trauma Center and Zack and Wiki. All good games that get lost who knows where. I love each of these games but feel like they never got the attention they deserved.

I am a very big supporter of the Wii but just feel as though the good 3rd party games get lost in the 1st party Nintendo games.

@Sqrl

GO BACK TO KH DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW!!!!!

I don't wanna wake up and see that my train got tipped cause the rail got messed up

aight, I'm goin to bed for real

Mario Strikers is a sports game, and that sport is most popular in Europe. Not surprisingly, it sold the most there. Carnival Games actually works against you, because I think it proves that the Wii audience is a wide one and not a single "just casual" or "just hardcore" entity. You'd never see something like Carnival Games sell millions on the 360 but on the Wii it is selling alongside games like Resident Evil and Metroid; a sign of a healthy, thriving console just like the PS2 which had similar situations. Only the strictly "hardcore" complain about games like this selling. 'Coincidentally,' no one complained when simialr games sold on the PS2. Hmm...

Also KH is plenty mainstream. It appeals to both audiences. Would people recognize Master Chief outside of the gaming community? He's essentially faceless. GTA has multiple protagonsists. Who outside of the gaming community canname each of them and their personal stories? The only thing GTA is known for in the mass media is cop killing and hooker roadkill, and occasionally the ethnicty of the main character.

KH's mainstream status does not come from the recognizability of its main character (though it's a little hard to argue that the majorty of the cast - being Disney characters - aren't recognizable) but the execution of its core gameplay giving it wide appeal. There is nothing remotely complex about the gameplay with the majorty of the ingame actions displayed on a menu in the lower left corner of the screen at all times. And with sales of nearly 6 million worldwide for the first game, I'd say ihas pretty wide appeal.

 Indeed this is getting way off topic. I myself apologize for adding to it.

 They are low budget games though.What do you expect them to sell?

So i'm guessing your ignoring the fact that No More Heroes sold better then Killer 7. A game from the same guy that was on the PS2,Xbox & GC? A very good game by the way.

How you don't consider that a success i don't know. Both games "deserve" more sales in the same way a foreign film deserves to have a bigger box office then "Spoof Movie 8"... but it isn't gonna happen... anywhere.

Truama center is an odd choice of a game... as it also sells really well compared to it's budget and scope, it's one of Atlus big money makers.

While Zak & Wiki... that genre is just dead honestly and i don't see it coming back.

All three of those games would of sold worse on PS3.

It's like saying games don't belong on the PS2 because Okami and Killer 7 didn't sell. 

 Bad argument considering PS3 has no RPG's. Wii has non casual games and point is they don't sell as well as they do on the other 2 consoles.

How about we agree to disagree?