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dtewi on 11 May 2008

I'm saying it has no Brand Loyalty! Not they are graphic whores! Wrong arguement!



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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BMaker11 on 11 May 2008
sc94597 said:
BMaker11 said:
Sqrl said:
Euphoria14 said:

This means what exactly? Larger user base not = higher sales.

 

Only thing I see is Kingdom Hearts large success on the Playstation brand.


 

Actually yes a larger user base does equate to higher sales. A larger userbase simply doesn't have a linear correlation with sales.

If thats all you see then perhaps you should open your eyes and stop ignoring what is obvious. Whether you like it or not SE has a history of moving franchises to other platforms when it makes economic sense and this is certainly one of those times. As I said before, it may be a multi-plat game but its going to be on the Wii.


If that's the case in this situation, the why is Birth by Sleep (which is basically a prequel, and not a spin-off) on the PSP, when the DS is SLAUGHTERING it?


 OF course , because we know so much about the games that we automatically know the psp game will be superior to the ds one.


I didn't say anything about it being superior, it was simply a tie-in with how I said that Nomura is keeping the main story on Sony platforms, but you said that based on install base, they should jump ship, to which I replied with what I said



Red*Pokemon*Trainer on 11 May 2008
sc94597 said:
Red*Pokemon*Trainer said:
dtewi said:
@Aprisaiden

Nomura HAS NO BRAND LOYALTY. If he did, FF would be on 64. CoM would be on PSP and so would 358/2 Days.

Also, he is familiar with both engines because he has developed for both, and he would choose the easier one to develop for and the cheaper one.


 

But the reason SE chose to develop for the PS1 instead of the N64 was because of the superior technology and the inferior N64.

 I don't know where you got superior or inferior at.Cd had it's advantages and disadvantages just like cartridges.

Cds were cheaper, and held more space, but were easily pirated, and load times were long. The opposite for the cartridges. And if you mean power, the n64 was considerabely more powerful than the ps1.  


SE or SS felt the cd based technology was superior for the type of games they wanted to make so that would make the N64's cartridge based system inferior to them.

dtewi on 11 May 2008

And they were for the NES because it had 5 times better graphics than other systems?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

BMaker11 on 11 May 2008
Kasz216 said:
Red*Pokemon*Trainer said:
@Kasz216- Out of all of the rpgs on the PS3 how many are well known or even good? stop spining things with illogical data not relevant to the topic.

Yeah. That's spinning. Not comparing No More Heroes to Ratchet and Clank.

Comparing sales of RPGs... for an RPG series.

It's actually a lot more relevant than anything Bmaker has pointed out.

 

Oblivion: Metacritic Rating 93.

Dragon Quest Swords Rating 65.

Sales: About even.  DQS... no europeon release data. 

You're failing to realize the kind of appeal these games have, RPG or not. Why is it that Mario and Sonic (in total) sold more than Gears of War? Because these "casual" games are what appeal to current Nintendo gamers, not niche titles. KH may not be a "hardcore" game, but it sure isn't a casual one

 



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Euphoria14 on 11 May 2008
BMaker11 said:
Sqrl said:
Euphoria14 said:

This means what exactly? Larger user base not = higher sales.

 

Only thing I see is Kingdom Hearts large success on the Playstation brand.


 

 Actually yes a larger user base does equate to higher sales.  A larger userbase simply doesn't have a linear correlation with sales.

If thats all you see then perhaps you should open your eyes and stop ignoring what is obvious.  Whether you like it or not SE has a history of moving franchises to other platforms when it makes economic sense and this is certainly one of those times.  As I said before, it may be a multi-plat game but its going to be on the Wii. 


If that's the case in this situation, the why is Birth by Sleep (which is basically a prequel, and not a spin-off) on the PSP, when the DS is SLAUGHTERING it?


 I am also pretty sure Birth By Sleep is also the game that continues from the secret ending of KH2 (someone please correct if I am wrong). I personally have no idea what the DS continues from although I will indeed play both.



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sc94597 on 11 May 2008
BMaker11 said:
Kasz216 said:
Red*Pokemon*Trainer said:
@Kasz216- Out of all of the rpgs on the PS3 how many are well known or even good? stop spining things with illogical data not relevant to the topic.

Yeah. That's spinning. Not comparing No More Heroes to Ratchet and Clank.

Comparing sales of RPGs... for an RPG series.

It's actually a lot more relevant than anything Bmaker has pointed out.

 

Oblivion: Metacritic Rating 93.

Dragon Quest Swords Rating 65.

Sales: About even. DQS... no europeon release data.

You're failing to realize the kind of appeal these games have, RPG or not. Why is it that Mario and Sonic (in total) sold more than Gears of War? Because these "casual" games are what appeal to current Nintendo gamers, not niche titles. KH may not be a "hardcore" game, but it sure isn't a casual one

 

That is incorrect. It is both hardcore and casual not neither.

 



sc94597 on 11 May 2008
Euphoria14 said:
BMaker11 said:
Sqrl said:
Euphoria14 said:

This means what exactly? Larger user base not = higher sales.

 

Only thing I see is Kingdom Hearts large success on the Playstation brand.


 

Actually yes a larger user base does equate to higher sales. A larger userbase simply doesn't have a linear correlation with sales.

If thats all you see then perhaps you should open your eyes and stop ignoring what is obvious. Whether you like it or not SE has a history of moving franchises to other platforms when it makes economic sense and this is certainly one of those times. As I said before, it may be a multi-plat game but its going to be on the Wii.


If that's the case in this situation, the why is Birth by Sleep (which is basically a prequel, and not a spin-off) on the PSP, when the DS is SLAUGHTERING it?


I am also pretty sure Birth By Sleep is also the game that continues from the secret ending of KH2.


If it's a prequel how does it continue from kh2?



Euphoria14 on 11 May 2008
sc94597 said:
Euphoria14 said:
BMaker11 said:
Sqrl said:
Euphoria14 said:

This means what exactly? Larger user base not = higher sales.

 

Only thing I see is Kingdom Hearts large success on the Playstation brand.


 

Actually yes a larger user base does equate to higher sales. A larger userbase simply doesn't have a linear correlation with sales.

If thats all you see then perhaps you should open your eyes and stop ignoring what is obvious. Whether you like it or not SE has a history of moving franchises to other platforms when it makes economic sense and this is certainly one of those times. As I said before, it may be a multi-plat game but its going to be on the Wii.


If that's the case in this situation, the why is Birth by Sleep (which is basically a prequel, and not a spin-off) on the PSP, when the DS is SLAUGHTERING it?


I am also pretty sure Birth By Sleep is also the game that continues from the secret ending of KH2.


 If it's a prequal how does it continue from kh2?

 

The secret ending for KH2 is not a continuation of the KH2 storyline. I am fairly sure it happened before that time.

Other than the possibilities left from the letter recieved at the end of KH2 from King Mickey I can't see Sora's story going much further.



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Sqrl on 11 May 2008
Euphoria14 said:
Sqrl said:

I have read your posts actually, but if all you see is success on the PS brand then you quite clearly need to open your eyes. There is a lot more to this than the past, past sales mean precisely jack, this is a new generation and the situation has changed immensely.

You can backpeddle if you like but you made the statement so don't get defensive if I call you on it.


As I said, if your logic is correct and mine is completely flawed please explain why Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, etc... have not jumped ship yet.

I am going on past history, which shows facts. Your going only based on the fact that you think it will go there based on userbase.

I am not being defensive either, if I was then I would be for PS3 only and not a multi platform release.

My eyes are wide open by the way. Thanks for letting me know I am blind not once, but twice.

I just like to make opinions based on fact, not speculation.


You really shouldn't edit your post when the thread moves this fast, its easy for folks to miss it.

Anyways, your past history is based on the situation from the past, the situation has changed significantly...what part of that don't you get?

Your welcome for letting you know, and no they weren't open because you are still trying to use the information from when the PS2 was ahead by 60+ million consoles as if it is valid for the PS3 which is behind by 13+ million.

PS - Opinions based on facts aren't opinions, they are statements.



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