I don't think the Elite is selling well, it's just being made in small amounts which makes it appear that it's sold out everywhere. This month's NPD will show taht the 360 didn't get a big boost from the Elite.

Couldn't afford one if I wanted one

I've got mine. I've had it since december.

Yes, since March 23. I have R;FOM, Motorstorm, Blazing Angels, Virtua Tennis and Tony Hawks PSN: Flow, GT HD, Tekken, calling all cars soon RSV soon as well

i couldn't possibly imagine myself ever having my hands on a Sony product, yes, i mean that.

Yet another price discussion.  That's what it boils down to.  It's a great/cheap blue-ray player.  The absolute vast majority of U.S. households still don't have the means to view HD and even a smaller percentage can view 1080P.  Factor that out of the equation and you have (albeit a phenomenal one) a $600 video game console.

There is this little thing called the "mass market".  From Wikipedia:  "The mass market is a general business term describing the largest group of consumers for a specified industry product. It is the opposite extreme of the term niche market"

The PS3 is not priced or targeted as a mass market device.  The $600 price tag due to the included blue ray player (currently a VERY niche audience!) insures it exists as a "niche market" device until such time as pricing reaches mass market appeal. (probably around $250-$300 given the success of the Wii and continued success of the PS2)

I'm most certainly not arguaing that the PS3 isn't an amazing device or saying I hate it.  The cell and blue-ray are most certainly bleeding edge and some damn cool stuff.   I think most people who are sane and rational will admit as such.  The sane and rational PS3 fanclub certainly have to recognize that the price of the device is a huge barrier to mass-market adoption and that right now the only buyers of the device are the "innovators"

Check out here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm

That will give you an idea of the "chasm" that exists in adoption of technology and what lies ahead for the PS3 in terms of it's adoption rate.  The big variable, of course, is pricing.  Moving along the adoption curve is directly related to price... 

What impresses you about the PS3 compared to the 360? As far as gaming is concerned, the 360 is really better hardware (more fill rate, much more general purpose CPU power, more flexible memory architecture).

Additionally, BD players have dropped significantly in price since the PS3 launched 6 months ago, and will further drop significantly in price within the next 6 months. Six months from now the PS3 will no longer be an average priced BD player but rather a very expensive BD player.

For example, standalone BD players were $1000 when the PS3 launched.  They're $469 for a good one now.  By the end of the year they will be $299 or cheaper.

Actually, the 360 is less reliable, however. Also, Sony's stand alone BR player is currently selling at $800. Not sure about other brand ones.

Funny how even this thread turned into a price discussion of the PS3. *Hint* *Hint* Sony.

deg you wasnt joking around.. i checked online and i could find a blu ray player for 450... thats a hell of a price drop since last november.. i predict a ps3 price drop this fall... even if its only 50 dollars... they have to at least make it compete with other blu ray players. prices....