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Vinther1991 said:
shavenferret said:

2.  From history, anthropology, and my observations.   If you'd like a more specific answer, then give a me a more specific question.  Fair, no?

Okay

shavenferret said:

It seems like attitudes against LGBTQ stuff abound everyday in Africa.  I can point out the interview that we've gotten some yucks over.  And it's funny because they seem so backwards, and yet they are native black people and so we aren't supposed to be outraged. 

Says who?

Their own nation says so. That’s why they make homosexuality illegal in around 30 nations. The treatment of women is horrible as well, with female circcumcizion being practiced in Africa whereas it is unknown in the world except for Africa. I’d argue that both of these two issues comes from the same source, their backwardness, of which the religion is a large contributor. 



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Empathy isnt a tragedy competition. People can care about more than 1 marginalized group at once.



Louie_86 said:

Empathy isnt a tragedy competition. People can care about more than 1 marginalized group at once.

But oddly, people always pick sides and so we lose that concern for all groups to a degree. 



It seems like you described what an Argentine is actually like.



shavenferret said:
Vinther1991 said:

Okay

shavenferret said:

It seems like attitudes against LGBTQ stuff abound everyday in Africa.  I can point out the interview that we've gotten some yucks over.  And it's funny because they seem so backwards, and yet they are native black people and so we aren't supposed to be outraged. 

Says who?

Their own nation says so. That’s why they make homosexuality illegal in around 30 nations. The treatment of women is horrible as well, with female circcumcizion being practiced in Africa whereas it is unknown in the world except for Africa. I’d argue that both of these two issues comes from the same source, their backwardness, of which the religion is a large contributor. 

You didn't notice what I bolded - who says we are not supposed to be outraged?



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Vinther1991 said:
shavenferret said:

Their own nation says so. That’s why they make homosexuality illegal in around 30 nations. The treatment of women is horrible as well, with female circcumcizion being practiced in Africa whereas it is unknown in the world except for Africa. I’d argue that both of these two issues comes from the same source, their backwardness, of which the religion is a large contributor. 

You didn't notice what I bolded - who says we are not supposed to be outraged?

Nobody ever speaks of these issues.  They are too easily forgiven.  The 2nd wave femenists were vocal about the practice of female circumcision but the third wave and supposed fourth have been much less vocal about it.  If the feminists aren't in an uproar who will be?  The democrats?  lmao.  The church? lmao.  The muslmims?  not in a million years.     



shavenferret said:
Vinther1991 said:

You didn't notice what I bolded - who says we are not supposed to be outraged?

Nobody ever speaks of these issues.  They are too easily forgiven.  The 2nd wave femenists were vocal about the practice of female circumcision but the third wave and supposed fourth have been much less vocal about it.  If the feminists aren't in an uproar who will be?  The democrats?  lmao.  The church? lmao.  The muslmims?  not in a million years.     

You moved the goal post, that people aren't speaking of it is a completely different claim than people telling you you shouldn't be outraged. It's impossible to focus on all injustices at the same time, you have to pick your fights.

It's good that you raise these important issues, but we can do without the pointing fingers.



Vinther1991 said:
shavenferret said:

Nobody ever speaks of these issues.  They are too easily forgiven.  The 2nd wave femenists were vocal about the practice of female circumcision but the third wave and supposed fourth have been much less vocal about it.  If the feminists aren't in an uproar who will be?  The democrats?  lmao.  The church? lmao.  The muslmims?  not in a million years.     

You moved the goal post, that people aren't speaking of it is a completely different claim than people telling you you shouldn't be outraged. It's impossible to focus on all injustices at the same time, you have to pick your fights.

It's good that you raise these important issues, but we can do without the pointing fingers.

You don't tell me what to do or say, son.  I can name any party that I choose.  Do you belong in any of the parties that I mentioned?  Are you a feminist or a Christian? 



shavenferret said:

You don't tell me what to do or say, son.  I can name any party that I choose.  Do you belong in any of the parties that I mentioned?  Are you a feminist or a Christian? 

Why are you pointing fingers at parties for not being outraged for you, can you not take on the task of being outraged yourself? Join an organization that fights discrimination within minority groups or start one or something, instead of asking people who are busy making a difference in other areas to do the work for you.

I am not a Christian, whether I am a feminist or not depends on the definition of the word.



Vinther1991 said:
shavenferret said:

You don't tell me what to do or say, son.  I can name any party that I choose.  Do you belong in any of the parties that I mentioned?  Are you a feminist or a Christian? 

Why are you pointing fingers at parties for not being outraged for you, can you not take on the task of being outraged yourself? Join an organization that fights discrimination within minority groups or start one or something, instead of asking people who are busy making a difference in other areas to do the work for you.

I am not a Christian, whether I am a feminist or not depends on the definition of the word.

So you don’t like me pointing fingers at you then? It makes you feel bad huh? Well you should be critical of these issues, many lgbtq people have been killed in Africa. And Americans should not stand for the homophobia of blacks either. They shouldn’t get a free pass on that, because it takes everyone to make a great society.