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Do you still support physical media?

Always 29 42.03%
 
Mostly 18 26.09%
 
Sometimes 9 13.04%
 
Rarely 6 8.70%
 
Never 4 5.80%
 
Don't care 2 2.90%
 
Don't have the space 1 1.45%
 
Total:69
Conina said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Ouya failed because it had no physical games, and allowed slop on it like the Atari. 

No, Ouya failed for dozens of other reasons. Physical games wouldn't have saved Ouya.

Yeah there were tons of other reasons why it failed. But also the failure of Ouya has no bearing on whether a new indie console would be successful. 



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Conina said:

No, Ouya failed for dozens of other reasons. Physical games wouldn't have saved Ouya.

Yeah there were tons of other reasons why it failed. But also the failure of Ouya has no bearing on whether a new indie console would be successful. 

If those SEGA rumours are true, about them making some "indie" handheld, they might be someone that stands behind such project. While that rumoured handheld is for pixel art indies, it would make sense to build similar device around something that is sufficiently powerful to be home for more demanding titles, without costing too much (again, something like Retroid Pocket 6 is fairly cheap and allows for that).

I could see enough people rallying behind SEGA for something like that to become sufficiently successful.



BraLoD said:

If Sony stop Blu-ray disc production they won't have from who to buy them, tho.

They will have to look for some other media to store games, and I don't think entering the console market is easy even for an already decently successful small company. Not impossible but Ouya tried to be an indie console and it flopped so much.

Sony isn't planning to stop Blu-ray disc production, and even if they will, there are other companies to go to, like Sonopress.



Vinther1991 said:
BraLoD said:

If Sony stop Blu-ray disc production they won't have from who to buy them, tho.

They will have to look for some other media to store games, and I don't think entering the console market is easy even for an already decently successful small company. Not impossible but Ouya tried to be an indie console and it flopped so much.

Sony isn't planning to stop Blu-ray disc production, and even if they will, there are other companies to go to, like Sonopress.

Sony is literally already repurposing their only remaining Blu-ray disc production factory to something else.

How big is Blu-ray production outside of Sony, tho?

Sonopress is not good in my experience (are they still making discs?), they made Xbox Blu-rays here in Brazil (and some discs for PC) and those are the only very unreliable discs I can ever think about, buying an used Xbox One disc online here is a lottery if you can't see it yourself, more often than not I would expect the layers to have already started to separate and the disc to be useless, can't say the same for any other systems I own (maybe GameCube a little bit), I can buy any Playstation Blu-ray disc without a care and 100% of them have always worked for me, and those are the ones I have by far the most too.



BraLoD said:

Sony is literally already repurposing their only remaining Blu-ray disc production factory to something else.

How big is Blu-ray production outside of Sony, tho?

Sonopress is not good in my experience (are they still making discs?), they made Xbox Blu-rays here in Brazil (and some discs for PC) and those are the only very unreliable discs I can ever think about, buying an used Xbox One disc online here is a lottery if you can't see it yourself, more often than not I would expect the layers to have already started to separate and the disc to be useless, can't say the same for any other systems I own (maybe GameCube a little bit), I can buy any Playstation Blu-ray disc without a care and 100% of them have always worked for me, and those are the ones I have by far the most too.

Sonopress make a lot of discs, including for Xbox still, worldwide as far as I know.

There are other companies as well, but it is true Sony is the biggest one. Would be insane if they just stopped that, as they still have a considerate amount of costumers.



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Vinther1991 said:
BraLoD said:

Sony is literally already repurposing their only remaining Blu-ray disc production factory to something else.

How big is Blu-ray production outside of Sony, tho?

Sonopress is not good in my experience (are they still making discs?), they made Xbox Blu-rays here in Brazil (and some discs for PC) and those are the only very unreliable discs I can ever think about, buying an used Xbox One disc online here is a lottery if you can't see it yourself, more often than not I would expect the layers to have already started to separate and the disc to be useless, can't say the same for any other systems I own (maybe GameCube a little bit), I can buy any Playstation Blu-ray disc without a care and 100% of them have always worked for me, and those are the ones I have by far the most too.

Sonopress make a lot of discs, including for Xbox still, worldwide as far as I know.

There are other companies as well, but it is true Sony is the biggest one. Would be insane if they just stopped that, as they still have a considerate amount of costumers.

Yeah, we just had reports about Sony shifting productions from discs to microlens (I hope I got it right), in their last factory and workers are to be trained to do that instead.

Sony own first party games still have a very decent margin of physical sales from what I understand, maybe more than double their overall ~17% number that actually is not a fair representation of actual games sold both physically and digitally have, because it includes hundreds of digital only titles or older games they don't print anymore for years and are sold as used, which doesn't factor in their ratio, but have readily available digital version that sell and do count.

They are throwing a very sizable customer base in hope they embrace digital and they have full control of that landscape.

Sony is betting their brand image and short term profit on even their own games (which can result in more studios closure) in hope they end up having everyone by their balls so it massively benefit them from there on. I can't see it any other way.



BraLoD said:
Yeah, we just had reports about Sony shifting productions from discs to microlens (I hope I got it right), in their last factory and workers are to be trained to do that instead.

Sony own first party games still have a very decent margin of physical sales from what I understand, maybe more than double their overall ~17% number that actually is not a fair representation of actual games sold both physically and digitally have, because it includes hundreds of digital only titles or older games they don't print anymore for years and are sold as used, which doesn't factor in their ratio, but have readily available digital version that sell and do count.

They are throwing a very sizable customer base in hope they embrace digital and they have full control of that landscape.

Sony is betting their brand image and short term profit on even their own games (which can result in more studios closure) in hope they end up having everyone by their balls so it massively benefit them from there on. I can't see it any other way.

It’s just the branch working on PS5 disc manufacturing that will be shiftet to microlenses to avoid layoffs, not the entire factory. PS5 discs are a major part of their production though, so it’s a bad sign for optical media in general. 

And indeed this decision isn’t very smart from Sony when looking at the numbers, so who knows what dumb decisions they will pull next. Even if their 15 % wasn’t misleading, 15 % is still a lot of games.



I've done my bit.Recently bought Diddy kong racing DS physical to play on my 3Ds. I've got a fantastic backlog of physical games across multiple systems. I already made my decision about 2 years ago that this current gen is my last for buying new hardware. Its full on backlog from now on.



HoloDust said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Yeah there were tons of other reasons why it failed. But also the failure of Ouya has no bearing on whether a new indie console would be successful. 

If those SEGA rumours are true, about them making some "indie" handheld, they might be someone that stands behind such project. While that rumoured handheld is for pixel art indies, it would make sense to build similar device around something that is sufficiently powerful to be home for more demanding titles, without costing too much (again, something like Retroid Pocket 6 is fairly cheap and allows for that).

I could see enough people rallying behind SEGA for something like that to become sufficiently successful.

I can't trust Sega anymore. Heard about their Emerald Hunt event for Sonic's 35th anniversary? The terms of the event require participants to consent to their data being collected for AI. That goes completely against what Sonic stands for as a character. -_-



I saw batsugun saturn tributr boosted on sale for 6,99 on psn,went to amazon.nl and bought the physical game for 28(also a sale)
Let's see which version will preserve the longest
Its over for me besides a phew ps1 and ps2 classics i wont be buying psn games anymore.



 

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