By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General - So, it turns out I'm ADHD

SvennoJ said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah I avoid hard games as I'm already stressed out enough and play games to relax; for me also difficulty is a mostly negative experience.

For me, it's about finding those positive triggers and using those to balance out the bad ones; the things that fill your cup as opposed to emptying it. Medication helps; I'm actually quite interested in seeing if ADHD medication can help with me always being so disorganised and forgetful and unmotivated. 

The sun woke me up before 7AM, go figure. (After falling asleep -ish at 3 AM) The bedroom looks out East with big patio glass doors, need better curtains. Clouds moved in not much later while still only 2c outside, smh. Can't stand this cycle of clear below zero nights and cloudy days, but have to deal with it.

Anyway quiet morning is good, oldest left just before I woke up to go on a spring cycling event with his club. Good for him. I think he wanted me to come as well during the day but not up to driving 60km to get there. At least it's warmer there already and no rain in the forecast for him. He'll have a good time. My wife, youngest and the dog are still asleep.

I self medicate with cannabis for sleep and perspective. It works most of the time and the perspective shift is always good to remind me to see things from all sides and that feelings of shame, self doubt and guilt are temporary (cannabis enhances those) It's a bit like, process the negativity let it work itself through, wake up more positive in the morning. And there's also the fun part, getting really drawn into music, better focus as well as clearer vision somehow and making VR feel more real.

I wish you the best finding the right medication for you. It can be a long journey or you might get it right the first time. A good doctor helps. Are you really disorganized or just differently organized? My wife has what's called the butterfly organization style, short clutterbug. So her stuff is all over the house which looks disorganized but she always manages to thing things (eventually). I try to get her to use her phone calendar more (but iPhone regularly screws up) but keep track of things on the fridge as a fall back. I also keep a list of her passwords for her. She lets me handle all the finances, but I also miss things. For example the cannabis delivery guy told me my driver's license (need ID) was 2 months expired, oops.

My wife and I both struggle with motivation, body doubling can help there (initiating a task together) but not if we both have no motivation for those tasks lol. Garage needs cleaning so we can get new garage doors, for 2 years now. House needs new siding, 5 years now. (Everything was in place but Covid screwed it up, factory delayed, contractor abandoned us) These major project stress us out, still 'recovering' from getting a new roof 3 years ago. Banging on the roof for weeks. (life time roof now, that's done) And currently there's already enough construction going on around us. But I did manage to patch the driveway with my oldest, brought in more sand and gravel from the river. No more big standing puddles. Quiet manual labor :) Like cutting dead and fallen trees up with an axe and saw. Neighbors always telling me you can use my chainsaw, No. An electric weed wacker is already too loud for me. Power tools are nightmare tools.

For me with motivation it seems once I start I won't stop until it's done or I can't anymore. Autistic inertia in action. Will not to take any breaks in between, task switching, interruptions will make it easily last hours longer or abort the whole thing. Yet so often it feels impossible to just get up and get started, like my mind is waiting to fill up the tank before being able to execute.

I am mostly just disorganised tbh, my brain just can't retain information so I constantly lose and forget things, it's really frustrating. I also tend to be messy just cos its so hard to force myself to initiate and stick with tasks like tidying up my desk/room/etc, motivation rarely comes.

I have several friends with ADHD (there's that "flock together" effect in action) who say medication has made a huge positive difference for them, so I'm hoping it can help me too.



Around the Network

I have mixed-type ADHD.
One of the most important skills to drill into an ADHD psyche is scheduling and task-lists help. Timers as well. Personal experience: it's something that took me years to get used to because of how unintuitive structure seems, but it has helped me immensely.

Personal experience in relation to forums: One of the big side effects for me that manifest in my forum writing are splitting off onto a near off-topic tangent. And that's because my mind will often fill up with new information and I'll literally lose track of what I was talking about in the first place. The reason why ADHD people, of my sort, have such poor working memories is because of dozens of impulsive thoughts all the time; working memory fills up, and suddenly I have no idea that I left my keys on the ledge around the corner in the basement.

On the bright side, everyone has impaired executive function now, and I think ADHD people have superior compensatory strategies. At least that's what I've been finding.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Jumpin said:

I have mixed-type ADHD.
One of the most important skills to drill into an ADHD psyche is scheduling and task-lists help. Timers as well. Personal experience: it's something that took me years to get used to because of how unintuitive structure seems, but it has helped me immensely.

Personal experience in relation to forums: One of the big side effects for me that manifest in my forum writing are splitting off onto a near off-topic tangent. And that's because my mind will often fill up with new information and I'll literally lose track of what I was talking about in the first place. The reason why ADHD people, of my sort, have such poor working memories is because of dozens of impulsive thoughts all the time; working memory fills up, and suddenly I have no idea that I left my keys on the ledge around the corner in the basement.

On the bright side, everyone has impaired executive function now, and I think ADHD people have superior compensatory strategies. At least that's what I've been finding.

Yeah I am also the combined/mixed type.

Do you take any medication for it, or are you just doing it raw?



What it feels like to be Autistic and other people talk to me, are in the room or simply being observed.



More and more cameras everywhere isn't helping my mental health either, always observed.

My brain is analog while NTs have their h.265 filter to reduce the bandwidth of modern day input, filtering most of it out. Yet the benefit is never getting bored of the same forest or river, as I don't see a forest, I see all the changes every time (multiple times a week) I go. Sucks I also see every little piece of litter people leave behind, which physically hurts. 



Autism and ADHD is such a tricky combo cos the autism craves routine, organization and predictability but the ADHD demands novelty and spontaneity and is incapable of staying organized.

Your brain's constantly going in opposite directions and it's like there's two monkeys up there fighting over the controls.

I got a referral to a psychiatrist the other day, so hopefully I'll be able to get medication soon to level me out. Friends of mine with ADHD have said medication was life-changing for them.



Around the Network
curl-6 said:

Autism and ADHD is such a tricky combo cos the autism craves routine, organization and predictability but the ADHD demands novelty and spontaneity and is incapable of staying organized.

Your brain's constantly going in opposite directions and it's like there's two monkeys up there fighting over the controls.

I got a referral to a psychiatrist the other day, so hopefully I'll be able to get medication soon to level me out. Friends of mine with ADHD have said medication was life-changing for them.

People always told me I likely had ADHD as well, I dismissed it since I'm highly organized. Then I learned this a week ago:

Why Some ADHD Individuals are Highly Organized
  • Masking and Coping: People with ADHD may adopt, high-functioning ADHD strategies, such as creating intense routines or hyper-organizing to counteract fear of failure.
  • Anxiety-Driven Control: A fear of losing control or forgetting things can drive a need for extreme order, making the organization a "protective barrier" rather than a natural state.
  • Hyperfocus on Systems: An individual might hyperfocus on creating the "perfect" filing system, which is a common, yet often time-consuming, high-functioning ADHD trait.
  • Externalizing the Brain: Because internal organization is tough, they may rely heavily on external tools (planners, lists, apps) to function, according to Dr. Hallowell's insights on space organization. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

People have been 'commenting' on my way I do grocery shopping for years. I fill the cart like I'm playing Tetris, everything organized by department, stacked meticulously, every part of the cart has its purpose. Then the same while packing groceries in bags, by destination in the house, downstairs fridge/freezer, by kitchen cabinet / drawer, upstairs fridge/freezer.

Intense routines, check. I created the "perfect" filing system for my VHS tapes back in the day, wrote my own index/catalog program for it on MSX in Basic. Later the same for my DVDs and Laserdiscs, all covers photographed, cropped/color corrected and stored in sort-able HTML files. I have all my pictures and screenshots organized on my laptop in directory hierarchies. Got over a 100 tabs open on Firefox, organized in groups. I rely on the fridge calendar, program in transactions far ahead. Keep all the passwords and login information for everyone in the house, keep all the official documents neatly organized in the safe, and so on. I get anxious when a movie or game is out of place in my collections. When I need to go somewhere I print out a route in advance and look at street images for every turn to memorize landmarks to look out for. (I don't rely on GPS anymore since I'm not in control of the maps anymore after I stopped working, part of my job was checking/fixing the street maps for which I made tools the map company hadn't even thought of)

So it seems in my case the Autist side of craving routine, organization and predictability are the main driving factors. Yet the pull for novelty and spontaneity are always there, always feeling like I'm getting pulled in two directions at the same time. I always dismissed it as being indecisive, which I really am not when it comes to most things. The hardest part over the years has been and still is trying to enjoy what I'm doing now, instead of always feeling I should be doing something else. When I go out running or cycling I have to suppress the thoughts to be back home asap to go back into 'service mode', no matter my wife always tells me take all the time you want/need. And it's what stopped me enjoying movies, I can't focus on enjoying movies anymore as I always feel I should be doing something else, yet can watch/browse all kinds of stuff for hours seemingly stuck to get going.

And when it all comes together, hyper fixation, hyper focus, hyper organizing this is the result:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/exploring-the-world-in-the-beechcraft-bonanza/266981

Meticulously planning routes ahead, checking landmarks, then changing my day/night rhythm to fit around the flying schedules I set out every day for the next day(s). Then working on organizing screenshots and presentation while flying on autopilot, programming the autopilot to head to the next destination. I made the "filing system" after a bunch of flights to find the perfect format for me, then caught up to real time while filling in the first weeks.

When I play Synthriders I always 'work' to keep the song counts even. So when a new pack comes out I 'have to' to play it a lot to catch up to my 'main reel' favorites counts that are now at 25. Catching up the latest packs that are at 15 but playing those over and over before continuing with the whole favorites list. Now and then inserting strategies to even out the main reel from getting 'disorganized' by the songs appearing in daily challenges messing with the count. Currently some are at 24, some at 25, so got this whole plan/schedule to do some main reel songs while repeating the new packs to get things evened out again. It's exhausting lol. 

The need for symmetry in stuff I make in Minecraft was so strong I had to build 4 mega projects, exactly spaced out, exactly the same. Everything I have build in Minecraft / CyubeVR is all counted out and planned to the block. My way of playing Death Stranding fits right into it. My strategies were all for organizing transports, using the safe houses as distribution centers and temporary storage while going up and down the routes and branches. When exploring a game map I need that 'fog of war' so I can reveal every little bit in a grid pattern. My wife knows this and went along with it in PoE where I can't move on to the next map without filling in all the 'grey' first, doubling back to get every last pixel uncovered even though there's nothing left.

But yes, that hardest part is always being pulled in different directions in my mind. You should go on holiday, no it will just lead to burnout. Be spontaneous and just go somewhere, no I need to mentally prepare and organize or risk shutdown. And not being able to enjoy movies anymore, too restless. I bought Project Hail Mary in book form. At least I can still enjoy reading, albeit only in the sun. (Sun-Seekers: Many autistic people enjoy sunbathing for the intense warmth, which can be regulating, calming, and a way to manage anxiety. It can provide sensory feedback that helps them feel more grounded) When reading in the sun I'm calm and focused on the book, I cannot read books inside, only when I'm stuck in a waiting room. I do have to be careful not to get burned too much, while I hate the smell of sunscreen. Luckily my quarter Indonesian DNA tans me quickly. Also like being brown much more than being white. Depression always hits in fall/winter when the sun goes away / gets too cold. But can't bring myself to fly to a sun destination in winter. Just the thought increases my heart rate, anxiety.

Let me know what medication does for you. Hope it helps. My fear of change and people overrides my 'needs' to seek support. I still haven't looked for a new chiropractor yet since I lost mine during Covid.



I would guess quite many active members on a videogame forum is ADHD. Videogames with fast pace give the adrenalin your brain craves and discussing about them hints on some level of obsession around them.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

bdbdbd said:

I would guess quite many active members on a videogame forum is ADHD. Videogames with fast pace give the adrenalin your brain craves and discussing about them hints on some level of obsession around them.

Pretty much, yeah.

Gaming appeals to my autism as well cos games are highly systemic in nature with clear rules and structures, while sales trends and statistics tickle the part of my brain that loves patterns and data.



bdbdbd said:

I would guess quite many active members on a videogame forum is ADHD. Videogames with fast pace give the adrenalin your brain craves and discussing about them hints on some level of obsession around them.

Not just fast paced, strategy / management sims give you the stability and predictability of a rule based order you can control. Simulations give you the ability to explore from a safe space, like I did with FS2020. VR gives you the ability to submerge yourself while blocking out all competing sensory input. Puzzle games give you the satisfaction of overcoming tasks through pattern recognition. All providing the brain dopamine and endorphins. (I don't play competitive games anymore since I already have an abundance of adrenaline+cortisol from sensory overload anxiety)

And yep, forums give you the space to 'fixate' further on games and analyze their inner workings in depth.

Plus video games provide a 'social out'. Don't need to engage with people, can play on your own or simply mute and block people. (My block list during my GT Sport fixation grew by at least half a dozen a day)