Lombard, it needs to be more than UK, France and Germany because their monthly totals for the last quarter don't add up to the totals for Europe. The gap BKK calculated is 276k for PS3 and 321k for Nintendo, combined around 600k. The total European sales for the first 13 weeks are around 1900k for PS3 and Wii combined. The pie chart provided by BKK shows UK, France and Germany combined to be around 2 third of the market, while the other countries (almost all of the remaining countries in Western Europe) make up for the remaining 1 third. Considering the missing 600k is about equal to 1 third of the market as well makes it seem likely Nintendo included a large part of the countries in Western Europe, but it is impossible to know which ones exactly.
So RolStoppable, maybe you could be lucky and Nintendo included Austria...

BKK2, you remember of that:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=14512

with this link:

http://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/2008/03/08/04002-20080308ARTFIG00146-la-xbox-couterait-moins-cher-que-la-wii-.php

At this time in France, it was:

WII: 1.47m
PS3: 630k
360: 610k

We were not sure of the date, but if it's the most recent possible, it's for the week ending 2 march.

In this case, your number for end Q1 2008 seems to low for me, because 10k per week for the ps3, and 20 k for the wii (what i think is possible for the 4 weeks in march) give more.

Lombard, look at the figure Nintendo showed:

Also if it is from March 4th, isn't that 9 weeks into the new year? Earlier numbers showed PS3 at 563k at the end of 2007, which means it sold 67k units in 8 or 9 weeks, or an average of 7.4-8.4k per week. The 26k increase since your last numbers are pretty much in line with those weekly numbers if they are for only 4 weeks. As for Wii sales, maybe sales slowed down a bit in March or there were some supply issues again.

I forget we have more in this thread for france at the end of 2007 :

PS3 : 563.000

360 : 589.000

So for the ps3, with the Q1 you estimate 134 k, it give at the end of Q1 2008, 697 k.

And we know the total of the wii for the end of 2007:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=16441

wii: 1.28m

And you said 245 k for the wii during Q1 2008.

So, it give for end Q1 2008, something like 1.525 m

So, it's certainly more hard to read the informations as you do.

Don't forget the ps3 was launch 23 march 2007, and the wii 8 december 2006, so certainly the graph for France is not easy to read because 1 month for the wii or the playstation 3 are not the same date.

So, in fact, your playstation 3 Q1 2008 for France must be too strong, which could says that it sold less ps3 in march, and your LTD numbers could be more right, but for me, 12 month for the ps3 give the week ending 23 march 2008, so not the true end of Q1 2008. So the number of 656 k you give must be for this week, and in this case the number of 656 k is possible.

I finnish with that: 16 month for the wii must give the week ending 6 april. So, the most high number you could read for the wii, is one week next the end of Q1 2008.

I find these graphs very interesting, but finally they seems more hard to read as i think in the begin. Maybe, with the numbers i give you for france at the end of the year 2007 and maybe for the week ending 2 march could help you to better understand the dates of the month in the graphs.

Edit: It seems too hard to read. 9 month next the lauch of the ps3 must give the week ending 22 december, but it don't work, because the ps 3 only beat 500 k in France next 10 month, and even with 10 months, the number of 563,000 seems not possible with the graphs. So i don't understand the month date of the graphs, and maybe, the more simple is to wait new gfk numbers in France.

 Lol, I met another Austrian (and Austrian Guest, so 2 Austrians) online on Mario Kart a couple of days ago, so far I have seen no other Austrians besides them and yourself.

You don't have to be Austrian to shop in Austria.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/080425/04.html

The figures are just calculated from Nintendo's graph, I didn't make the graph.

Here's the data I calculated, if it doesn't match what you think it should check Nintendo's graph, if the data matches the graph blame Nintendo. If the data doesn't match the graph blame me. Remember, these aren't exact, expect them to be slightly off, if there's a significant discrepancy feel free to point it out.

360:

EU:

Week:

01: 50k
02; 43k
03; 24k
04; 23k
05; 24k
06; 22k
07; 19k
08; 19k
09; 22k
10; 19k
11; 32k
12; 49k
13; 48k
14; 43k
15: 32k

Q1: 394k
TT: 469k

DE:

Month:

16: 253k (only 360 month I could cross reference, it matches)

PS3:

Q1: 725K
TT: 860K

UK/FR/DE: 449k
Missing: 276k

EU:

Week:

01: 108k
02; 65K
03; 50K
04; 45K
05; 47K
06; 43K
07; 44K
08; 44K
09; 49K
10; 45K
11; 45K
12; 58K
13; 82K
14; 76K
15: 59K

UK:

Month:

10: --k (859k)
11: 79k (938k)
12: 62k (1000k)
13: 80k (1080k)

Q1: 221k

FR:

Month:

10: --k (522k)
11: 56k (578k)
12: 33k (611k)
13: 45k (656k)

Q1: 134k

DE:

Month:

(I could cross reference most of this, any difference is due to the margin of error in the method used to calculate the data.

Month: MonthK (Graph LTD) [GfK LTD] Difference

01: 49K (049K) [54.4K] -5.4K
02: 26K (065K) [70.5K] -5.5K
03: 11K (076K) [83.5K] -7.5K
04: 10K (086K) [91.5K] -5.5K
05: 11K (097K) [99.5K] -2.5K
06: 23K (119K) [NA]
07: 16K (135k) [135K] +0K
08: 38k (173k) [172K] +1K
09: 44k (217k) [NA]
10: 94k (311k) [309K] +2K
11: 33k (344k) [TBA]
12: 23k (367k) [TBA]
13: 39k (406k) [TBA]

Q1: 94k

Wii:

Q1: 1183k
TT: 1415K

UK/FR/DE: 862k
Missing: 321k

EU:

Week:

01: 36k
02: 58k
03: 109k
04: 88k
05: 92k
06: 92k
07: 95k
08: 109k
09: 103k
10: 100k
11: 89k
12: 109k
13: 103k
14: 111k
15: 121k

DE:

Month:

Whilst much of it matches the GfK data, some of it does not, for example Nintendo have LTD through 2007 at 776k, whereas GfK Media Control said it was 728k. This is not within the margin of error. Wii is clearly 50k higher on the graph than the GfK data, you can see this without even counting pixels. At month 10 Wii should be at 360k according to GfK,the graph has it clearly at 400k. This explains much of the discrepancy. The November & December match GfK data, it's just the LTD at the end of December that doesn't.

Month: MonthK (Graph LTD) [GfK LTD] Difference

01: 119k (119k) [NA]
02; 038k (157k) [NA]
03; 027k (184k) [NA]
04; 017k (203k) [202k] +1k
05; 028k (231k) [222k] +9k
06; 030k (261k) [NA]
07; 022k (283k) [265k] +18k
08; 036k (319k) [291k] +28k
09; 045k (364k) [NA]
10; 036k (400K) [361k] +39k
11; 031k (431K) [389k] +42k
12; 133k (564K) [NA]
13; 212k (776K) [728k] +48k
14; 043k (819K) [TBA]
15: 035k (854K) [TBA]
16: 062k (916K) [TBA]

Q1: 140k

FR:

Month

13: ---k (1272k)
14: 106k (1378k)
15: 072k (1450k)
16: 067k (1517k)

Q1: 245k

UK:

Month:

13: ---k (2086k)
14: 141k (2227k)
15: 171k (2398k)
16: 165k (2563k)

Q1: 477k

Lombardo:

If there is a discrepancy in the graph, for example PS3 is lower at the end of 2007 than the data we already have, expect this discrepancy to apply to the whole graph. ie Q1 2008 LTD will be lower on the graph than actual data too.