By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Politics - "Operation Epstein Fury" - US and Israel Unprovoked invasion of Iran

ST.Tachyon 16 hours ago
Davy said:

U.S. don't let rich countries and allys like Germany and Japan to have nukes and you expect they well let Iran in Middle East Area that has huge world oil and natural gas reserves.
This is naive and hilarious.

IF i am not wrong Germany is not capable to make one, and they are most likely afraid that Japan will nuke them for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Why anyone need Nuke?

Its to rule through fear.

In normal world no one would have Nukes, i mean why do you need weapon of mass destruction?

These weapons only exist to commit genocides



Around the Network
sundin13 15 hours ago
JRPGfan said:


And what is the alternative? I asked this before.

Diplomacy.

For more information, see: Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action aka Iran Nuclear Deal



TallSilhouette 14 hours ago

Content warning: broken bones



SvennoJ 14 hours ago

Btw US bombing Iran and Iran blowing up oil refineries in retaliation is mutual assured destruction. Maybe everyone has forgotten about climate change, yet the US military is one of the worst when it comes to climate change.

https://earth.org/us-military-pollution/

US military pollution is a significant contributor to climate change. If it were a nation state, it would be the 47th largest emitter in the world. Their negligence, nuclear testing and disregard for human life has come at a huge environmental cost, and reform needs to be taken into consideration to protect our planet.

That's a 5 year old article, no doubt it has only gotten worse. Here's a more recent one:
https://jacobin.com/2025/10/us-military-climate-crisis-documentary

Israel destroying Gaza has contributed more to global warming than entire countries.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/30/carbon-footprint-of-israels-war-on-gaza-exceeds-that-of-many-entire-countries

Russia-Ukraine same thing
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/13/russia-war-with-ukraine-accelerating-global-climate-emergency-report-shows

As the Gulf conflict widens, so does its environmental footprint

https://dialogue.earth/en/nature/as-the-gulf-conflict-widens-so-does-its-environmental-footprint/

...

In a region already strained by climate change and resource scarcity – and in a world bound together by energy markets, shipping lanes and shared ecosystems – the environmental consequences of this war are already crossing borders.

Richard Milburn, who researches armed conflict and the environment at King’s College London, believes those consequences and reconstruction efforts must be part of the conversation. But he finds it “highly unlikely” these will occur outside “the environmental sector echo chamber”. He calls this “the enduring challenge for those of us concerned about the environment”.

Oh Trump thinks it's all a hoax anyway right.



Death toll is past a 1,000 already, mass displacement in Southern Lebanon (that flared back up as well as result), Asian stock markets are plunging which will drive up consumer good prices globally.

All for Netanyahu chasing his demons and Trump building his legacy. 

And it's only day 4.



curl-6 14 hours ago

A US submarine has torpedoed and sunk an Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean; the first torpedo kill by a US sub since WW2

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/03/04/us-submarine-sinks-iranian-ship-in-first-torpedo-kill-since-wwii-pentagon-confirms/



Around the Network
SecondWar 13 hours ago
ST.Tachyon said:
Davy said:

U.S. don't let rich countries and allys like Germany and Japan to have nukes and you expect they well let Iran in Middle East Area that has huge world oil and natural gas reserves.
This is naive and hilarious.

IF i am not wrong Germany is not capable to make one, and they are most likely afraid that Japan will nuke them for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Both are a result of WW2. With Germany they wouldn’t push for one to honour non-proliferation commitments they made in the aftermath of the war. Japan is similar, but also being the only country have ever been attacked with nuclear weapons there is a cultural aversion to them.



SvennoJ 11 hours ago

Trump faces ire of US lawmakers after impact of Iran’s retaliation hits home


Several US senators have reacted angrily as they lashed out at Donald Trump for his decision to launch strikes against Iran without any planning. The central theme of these senators' reaction was that they appeared worried about Iran's ability to retaliate and hurt US interests. Rifat Jawaid examines the development and highlights how Iran is changing the rules of the game. This came on the day Iran targeted the US consulate office in Dubai with drone strike.


"Iran Is Hitting Back Hard!" - Iranian Analyst Sina Toossi


Iran analyst Sina Toossi explains how Western media and leaders lied about Iran to create "this perception that Iran is a paper tiger, Iran is weak, when in reality that was not the case. And look, now the whole region has blown up. Iran proved its resilience, proved it can hit back hard. We were told that Iran was not going to be able to disrupt the Strait of Hormuz or hit back in the Persian Gulf or hit Israel hard. It seems to me like pretty much every US military base West Asia has been struck. The cost that that's going to have for the global economy will be immense, and will be accumulating and growing over time. Israel's getting hit hard and it's a total mess and Quagmire. The US just doesn't really have any good options at all."

00:00 Sina Toosi's Iran predictions
00:34 how media manufactured consent
01:26 the narrative of weak iran was a lie
02:05 "the region has blown up"
02:15 "Iran has proved its resilience & is hitting back hard"
02:45 major damage and cost for global economy
03:00 Israel is getting hit hard
03:38 video: Steve Witkoff on Sean Hannity
05:48 "Witkoff is an incompetent fraud"
06:11 Witkoff and Kushner and Netanyahu are "devout Zionists"
06:37 negotiations were "a farce" on part of the U.S.
06:55 blaming Iran is "the peak of hubris and arrogance"
07:32 the deal Iran was willing to make
08:14 Trump admin has "destroyed America's credibility"
08:45 Israel using its nuclear weapon
09:14 "I wouldn't put anything past Israel"
09:39 America is helping create a new world order bad for America
09:59 The Iranian people are suffering but Iran is hitting back very hard
10:13 the Strait of Hormuz is the choke point of the global economy
10:49 Iran has huge leverage

Last edited by SvennoJ - 10 hours ago

SvennoJ 10 hours ago

Who Bombed Girls' School in Iran? Reporter Nilo Tabrizy on What We Know About Massacre of 175 People


After a strike on a girls' elementary school in Minab, Iran, killed at least 175 people, nearly all young schoolchildren, online reports spread disinformation about the attack, including claims that the Iranian government itself had bombed the school. Journalist Nilo Tabrizy describes how outside reporters have been able to verify the attack despite Iran's internet blackout and says attempts are still being made to confirm whether the strike is attributable to the U.S. or to Israel.

The US Is Losing The Iran War - Here’s Why

Last edited by SvennoJ - 10 hours ago

Cerebralbore101 9 hours ago
Darc Requiem said:
Chrkeller said:

It shocks me that one of the biggest promoters of world terrorism was clearly and undeniably building nukes... and people defend it.

There is one terrorist regime in the Middle East with illegal nukes and it's not Iran. It's boggles the mind how International Law doesn't apply to Israel. How people can continually swallow the narrative when there has been lie after lie from them and their flunkies in the US is beyond me. As the video of Netanyahu I posted before shows, Iran has been "on the cusp" of nuclear weapons well over 30 years according them. If they were as close to nuclear weapons as Netanyahu and all of the US Warhawks backing him would have people believe they'd have them by now. Think, really think about the situation. These same people pushing this war claimed that Iran's Nuclear Weapons program was obliterated last June. They cart out this lie everytime they attack Iran and they gave gotten away with because people are too ignorant to pay attention. Although, thankfully, this has begun to change.

Side note: Do you also believe that Israel is a democracy too?

Israel is just as much of a backwards, embarassment of a country as any other in the Middle East. It's a religion-based country, founded on the idea that even though most of them left thousands of years ago, Jews are the only ones entitled to live in the Israeli/Palestinian region. And don't get me wrong. Palestine beleives the same thing about themselves. They just happen to be on the losing side of a conflict where both sides wish for Genocide. 



Cerebralbore101 9 hours ago
SvennoJ said:
JRPGfan said:

Why do so many want to see the US as the bad guys?
Like common... 

If "scientists" that visit them, look over their enrichment and say its over 60%, one year.
Only to be denied future access to oversight, and then satellites can pick up traces of particles over 83%.... 
That does not sound like "weeks away from nukes for years and years".
Why are they even trying if they are told not too?

If the US, doesn't act, its words (and threats) become meaningless.
It erodes their "soft power". Sometimes all the US has to do is say "try us", and people/countries think twice about their actions.
You can't be saying for 20years or so, "don't do this, we wont allow it, there will be consequences".... only to watch them keep doing so (trying at it).
Get close to success, and then not act.  

And what is the alternative? I asked this before.
Do people actually want Iran to have nukes? What other option did the americans really have?

Honest negotiations, not unconditional demands and then attack while negotiating. 

Not scrapping the treaty they had and keep assassinating people in Iran while strangling the people with sanctions.



It's not about nukes, it's about Israel and dominance of the ME.

The US did nothing while North Korea was building nukes, performing nuclear tests (2006) and then getting missiles capable of striking LA.

As of 2025, U.S. officials and experts believe North Korea has advanced its technology enough that its missiles could deliver a nuclear payload to targets throughout North America.





https://www.armscontrol.org/issue-briefs/2026-03/did-irans-nuclear-and-missile-programs-pose-imminent-threat-no

In a Feb. 28 video announcing that the United States attacked Iran, Trump stated that Iran had “attempted to rebuild their nuclear program” and that the strikes will “ensure that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon.” But when the U.S. and Israel attacked Iran on Feb. 28, there was no evidence that Iran was engaged in nuclear activities that would pose an imminent threat to the United States. Neither U.S. President Donald Trump nor Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu presented any evidence of an ongoing weaponization effort and, in a March 2 press conference, IAEA Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi said “we don’t see a structured program to manufacture nuclear weapons” in Iran. The following day, in an interview with CNN, Grossi was asked if “the Iranians were days or weeks away from building a bomb.” His response was "no."

Trump also stated that Iran was attempting to rebuild its nuclear program, after the United States and Israel destroyed key nuclear facilities during June strikes (also without evidence of weaponization). Iran has continued activities at nuclear facilities that were unaffected by the June strikes, including the Pickaxe site near the Natanz uranium enrichment complex, which is deeply buried and could, when operational, pose a risk. There are also indications that Iran may be cleaning up or stabilizing some of the nuclear sites that were struck. But there is no evidence to suggest that Iran is resuming proliferation-sensitive nuclear activities, such as uranium enrichment, that would be necessary to produce nuclear material for a bomb.

....

Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that Iran was on the verge of developing a ballistic missile capable of targeting the United States. In the wake of the negotiation of the 2015 nuclear deal, Iran announced a voluntary range limit of 2,000 kilometers for its ballistic missiles. Tehran appears to still be generally adhering to that limit.

North Korea didn't get attacked because that would have sparked a war with China. Otherwise, it's a great point you made and really shows how cowardly and hypocritical USA foreign policy is.