The past few decades saw the downfall of two once mighty console businesses; Sega and Xbox.

Which was the more disastrous crashout in your opinion, and why?

Xbox. SEGA was still putting out amazing games. Xbox is not putting out much at all. When they put out the best game they made in a decade, they killed the studio then later sold them. SEGA ran out of money. MS has all the money in the world to buy everything and they still manage to fail. Xbox is all about AI use bullshit. Mass layoffs. Cancelling games. Delays for what is coming out. SEGA put out classic after classic and banger after banger even on Saturn and Dreamcast. Dreamcast is considered one of the best consoles yet it only sold 9 million. At least SEGA ended on a high note. All Xbox consoles have been since 2013 is a loud brown note. Let me know when Xbox One has new games made for it year after year 20 years later by fans. SEGA's managment sucked but the quality was still there. Xbox can't even claim that.


TBH Xbox management is almost 90s Atari levels of awful. Down to the penny pinching and games quality suffering in the process. Oh and like Xbox now, Atari was hyping games to the moon then releasing them unfinished.

Xbox ain't dead yet.

Sega really only had one successful console in the Genesis/Mega Drive. All XBox consoles have been more successful than the Genesis. Also, XBox is not done yet they will release at least one more console and by the time that one does not get any games anymore more than ten years from now console game as we know it will probably not exist anymore.

Definitely Sega. While DC was a solid system, the string of failures and disaster that preceded it were nothing short of catastrophic. Every system was a flop post-Genesis, and they couldn’t figure out for the life of them what to do with Sonic past the original trilogy during this interlude period. It got so bad that Sega had no choice but to bow out, else be met with the same fate as Atari of declaring bankruptcy.

Meanwhile, Xbox simply hasn’t been supported with too strong an exclusive line-up. Revenue is no issue, software output it still strong, third-party support is as good as ever, and hardware figures are currently triple what Dreamcast accomplished LTD…and this is without any price cuts to the Xbox Series consoles.

Xbox didn't crashed yet. They will release another console, and we don't know how it will perform. We shouldn't rush to conclusions.

If Nintendo didn't crashed with the Wii U, we can't say for sure the Xbox ecosystem is dead.

Mega Drive/Genesis was not a flop and Sonic Adventure games were reviewed well and sold well for their era. Saturn did really well in Japan. Just not outside of it and Saturn Japanese library is one of the best console libraries of the decade.

I should also note SEGA arcades were putting out great games as well.

I meant to add “after the Genesis/Mega Drive everything was a wreck”…oops. I’m gonna edit my original post. Also… Sonic Adventure was on DC; prior to DC, it was a wreck— Knuckles Chaotics, Sonic Xtreme, Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic Blast, Sonic Labyrinth, etc. Sega was very confused during this period, whereas Microsoft is acting very intentionally, with a lot of financial success, and continues to pump out a very strong line up of releases (regardless of the fact that they had to acquire tons of 3rd party devs to pump up their output).

I would not count out Xbox yet even if i never saw a reason to have one of their systems.
When SEGA left the console market Xbox sort of felt like the spiritual successor.

There are similarities with the crashout from both companies. Large amounts of money spent on things that did not result in a lot of profits. But Xbox feels more like a silent departure. Where SEGA focused on producing games, Xbox seems more interested in simply owning them and not do much.
I think something is brewing at Microsoft, we have not heard the last from them.

Xbox management would somehow fuck up selling water to thirsty people in a desert. Only ones worse than them I have seen is 90s Atari.