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trunkswd 5 hours ago
firebush03 said:
Sephiran said:

Nintendo should really have put Sakurai on a new Smash instead of Kirby, imagine if a new Smash game for Switch 2 got dropped this november for Switch 2 instead of Kirby. It would have led to a lot of hype and increased sales. Instead Kirby did nothing in Europe and all the hype this holiday is about the PS5. Missed opportunity for Nintendo. Instead of releasing many smaller games this holiday they should have released something of a similar size to Mario Odyssey back in 2017. For new consoles, the prioritity should be bigger and fewer games over many but smaller releases, instead Nintendo released a lot of smaller games that don't have any impact on the appeal of the system.

Sony probably can't believe their luck in Nintendo making that sort of mistake, they know that if Nintendo dropped a smash or a 30th anniversary 3D Mario game this year the attention would have been all on Switch 2. Nintendo probably thought Donkey Kong would have a strong effect but it hasn't done anything to create hype for Switch 2 in Europe.

Sephiran, you are going to give me a stroke (lol!). (i) Sakurai isn’t a Smash Bros machine; he is a game developer. (ii) Sakurai has stated very clearly that he has preference for Smash Ultimate to be his last as the lead director, and Nintendo has respected his wishes. (iii) Furthermore, chances are Smash is currently in development — and has been for a while — but with Sakurai merely in a supporting position, similar to Miyamoto’s contribution to Mario/Zelda games throughout the 2010s (during which we would see the release of Mario Odyssey and Zelda BotW, for instance).

Sakurai had worked on Smash Bros nonstop from 2003 all the way until 2023. He did good work with Smash Ultimate…let the man rest. Retro Studios was already fatigued of Metroid by the time of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption; Naughty Dog got fatigued of Sly Cooper and jumped to Uncharted, got tired of Uncharted and jumped to TLoU, and it seems they’ve also grown tired of TLoU and have jumped over to Intergalatic. These game devs aren’t machines.

This makes me think we might not get a new Smash on Switch 2. Maybe a Smash Bros Ultimate Deluxe that includes all the DLC and one or two new things added. Kinda like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 



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Sephiran 4 hours ago
trunkswd said:
firebush03 said:

Sephiran, you are going to give me a stroke (lol!). (i) Sakurai isn’t a Smash Bros machine; he is a game developer. (ii) Sakurai has stated very clearly that he has preference for Smash Ultimate to be his last as the lead director, and Nintendo has respected his wishes. (iii) Furthermore, chances are Smash is currently in development — and has been for a while — but with Sakurai merely in a supporting position, similar to Miyamoto’s contribution to Mario/Zelda games throughout the 2010s (during which we would see the release of Mario Odyssey and Zelda BotW, for instance).

Sakurai had worked on Smash Bros nonstop from 2003 all the way until 2023. He did good work with Smash Ultimate…let the man rest. Retro Studios was already fatigued of Metroid by the time of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption; Naughty Dog got fatigued of Sly Cooper and jumped to Uncharted, got tired of Uncharted and jumped to TLoU, and it seems they’ve also grown tired of TLoU and have jumped over to Intergalatic. These game devs aren’t machines.

This makes me think we might not get a new Smash on Switch 2. Maybe a Smash Bros Ultimate Deluxe that includes all the DLC and one or two new things added. Kinda like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 

That would be devestating to Switch 2 sales potential, Smash Ultimate was a big driving force in creating hype for Switch 1 and increased its momentum. Without a new Smash on Switch 2, that will be a major loss of appeal for the system. We see what lack of hype titles does for a console in the Switch 2s performance in Europe this year. With few appealing software, its impossible for the system to keep any momentum and appeal. Nintendo has given the PS5 a fully open goal in a major market by not having anything relevant this holiday in terms of software.



trunkswd 4 hours ago
Sephiran said:
trunkswd said:

This makes me think we might not get a new Smash on Switch 2. Maybe a Smash Bros Ultimate Deluxe that includes all the DLC and one or two new things added. Kinda like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 

That would be devestating to Switch 2 sales potential, Smash Ultimate was a big driving force in creating hype for Switch 1 and increased its momentum. Without a new Smash on Switch 2, that will be a major loss of appeal for the system. We see what lack of hype titles does for a console in the Switch 2s performance in Europe this year. With few appealing software, its impossible for the system to keep any momentum and appeal. Nintendo has given the PS5 a fully open goal in a major market by not having anything relevant this holiday in terms of software.

There was no new Mario Kart on the Switch 1 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the best-selling game on the console. Though I realize MK8 was on the Wii U, which was a huge flop of a console. 



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I post and adjust the VGChartz hardware estimates, with help from Machina.

Writer of the Sales Comparison | Monthly Hardware Breakdown | Monthly Sales Analysis | Marketshare Features, as well as daily news on the Video Game Industry.

firebush03 4 hours ago
trunkswd said:

This makes me think we might not get a new Smash on Switch 2. Maybe a Smash Bros Ultimate Deluxe that includes all the DLC and one or two new things added. Kinda like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 

If Metroid skipped N64 despite the overwhelming success of Super Metroid, and Pikmin 3 skipped Wii to ensure the game had enough time for polish, then I can definitely see Smash Bros skipping NS2. With how long generations have become and how early Smash Ultimate was released during the Switch gen, however, I’m leaning more towards it will come a lot sooner than many are expecting.



Sogreblute 4 hours ago
rapsuperstar31 said:

A lot of people are switching from Xbox to Playstation since Microsoft basically gave up.

If that's true the PS5 would be selling a lot more than the PS4, but since the PS5 is still behind the PS4 in the same timeframe that clearly isn't the case. Yes Xbox Series isn't selling close to the Xbox One, but if those gamers jumped over to PS5 the sales would be higher. Those Xbox gamers most likely went to PC.



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Sephiran 4 hours ago
trunkswd said:
Sephiran said:

That would be devestating to Switch 2 sales potential, Smash Ultimate was a big driving force in creating hype for Switch 1 and increased its momentum. Without a new Smash on Switch 2, that will be a major loss of appeal for the system. We see what lack of hype titles does for a console in the Switch 2s performance in Europe this year. With few appealing software, its impossible for the system to keep any momentum and appeal. Nintendo has given the PS5 a fully open goal in a major market by not having anything relevant this holiday in terms of software.

There was no new Mario Kart on the Switch 1 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the best-selling game on the console. Though I realize MK8 was on the Wii U, which was a huge flop of a console. 

Given that Switch 2 won't get any boost from third party games unlike PS5, that means the Switch 2 is fully riding on strong Nintendo exclusives to have momentum. Smash not getting a game on Switch 2 would be an enormous blow, it would be like PS5 not getting stuff like Cod and Battlefield, that is how much those major Nintendo franchises drive the appeal of Nintendo consoles, without such games Nintendo have nothing.



rapsuperstar31 4 hours ago
Sogreblute said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

A lot of people are switching from Xbox to Playstation since Microsoft basically gave up.

If that's true the PS5 would be selling a lot more than the PS4, but since the PS5 is still behind the PS4 in the same timeframe that clearly isn't the case. Yes Xbox Series isn't selling close to the Xbox One, but if those gamers jumped over to PS5 the sales would be higher. Those Xbox gamers most likely went to PC.

A lot of PS4 users switched to ateam or PC this generation, and now a lot of Xbox gamers are switching to PS5, steam, or pc.  With ram prices exploding, it's harder and harder to build a cheaper pc build 



Kyuu 4 hours ago
Sogreblute said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

A lot of people are switching from Xbox to Playstation since Microsoft basically gave up.

If that's true the PS5 would be selling a lot more than the PS4, but since the PS5 is still behind the PS4 in the same timeframe that clearly isn't the case. Yes Xbox Series isn't selling close to the Xbox One, but if those gamers jumped over to PS5 the sales would be higher. Those Xbox gamers most likely went to PC.

No it isn't clear that this is the case. Tens of millions of Playstation gamers remain active on PS4, Sony's total playerbase is increasing. So PS5 has a large number of "new" players and we don't know how many of them came from Xbox. PS5 should catch up to PS4 and comfortably beat it if Sony continues production and prices don't go up once again (which might happen in the context of rising RAM prices, tariffs, and all that crap).



Sephiran 4 hours ago

Nintendo seems to double down on Japan leaning stuff next year, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Pokopia, Tomodachi life. So i expect similar trends next year, Japan going ever more all in on Switch 2, while UK and other European market that likes AAA, shooters etc going even more all in on PS5.



Kyuu 4 hours ago

Nintendo should have priced the Switch 2 higher in Japan, and slightly lower in Europe. I still don't understand why they chose to price it so low in the one market where they absolutely dominate.