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Guessed by @mZuzek 

I played the games in the wrong order so P3 had a lot to live up to coming from Persona 5 and unsuprisingly it couldn't quite reach the same heights, but damn is it still good, both original and Reload. It is a bit of a shame that Reload stayed a bit too true to the original, not making very obvious changes like making all party members a Social Link, burrowing the 5 social stats from Persona 5 and adding more day activities, I mean Royal added more to Persona 5 in the latter than a full remake did. But oh well it still improved the gameplay and visuals massively and ironed out some of the issues, which was enough to make this already great, dark and epic game one of the absolute best of the genre.



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Guessed by @TruckOSaurus 

Don't read this if you haven't finished the game yet, but yeah... I really didn't like the ending to this one. I won't go into great detail here, my review mostly covered it, but it honestly feels like they were pupeetering the characters to play out an ending that felt off for them and that just felt like such a sucker punch after how amazing the rest of it was. It's hands down both my GOTY and my biggest dissapointment, I felt like I was playing a top 10 game for most of its runtime and that made it sting all the more. But well it's still here because 98 % of it is incredible, I'm not sure if I'll like it more or less in the long run but for now it's settling here just outside the top 20.

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20) It's 18 but open-world

19) It's 19 but they call it 2018

18) It's 20 but old

17) It's 16 but with less content

16) It's 17 but more divise



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UnderwaterFunktown said:

Guessed by @TruckOSaurus 

Don't read this if you haven't finished the game yet, but yeah... I really didn't like the ending to this one. I won't go into great detail here, my review mostly covered it, but it honestly feels like they were pupeetering the characters to play out an ending that felt off for them and that just felt like such a sucker punch after how amazing the rest of it was. It's hands down both my GOTY and my biggest dissapointment, I felt like I was playing a top 10 game for most of its runtime and that made it sting all the more. But well it's still here because 98 % of it is incredible, I'm not sure if I'll like it more or less in the long run but for now it's settling here just outside the top 20.

Having just finished it last night, my initial thoughts here are I disagree with your take on the ending. I thought it fit the characters well and was well-built up, it left me speechless and I'm thinking about it nonstop.

That said, I looked up your review on the site (you should just link to it in the part I bolded) and seeing your more in-depth explanation on why the ending bothered you, honestly I agree with a lot of your points. I don't so much have a problem with what happens in the ending, it was very impactful, but I do wish it had been presented in a way more similar to what you described on the review...

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Especially Maelle's ending. That was my first choice and it was kinda lame how the developers clearly paint that as the 'wrong' one.

I've been trying to finalize the positions of my top 20 today and am still unsure, but as I continue to play through more of the optional stuff in Clair Obscur, I'm just glad to say I don't regret throwing it into that top 20 before finishing it.

Edit: honestly, my feelings on this ending are kinda the exact opposite to how I felt about Hades II's ending, but I'll refrain from spoiling that.

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UnderwaterFunktown said:

20) It's 18 but open-world

19) It's 19 but they call it 2018

18) It's 20 but old

17) It's 16 but with less content

16) It's 17 but more divise

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20) Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth (it's open world-ish)?

19) That must be God of War (2018)

18) Final Fantasy VII (it's old)?

17) Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (Remake)?

16) Resident Evil 3: Nemesis ?



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Guessed by @UnderwaterFunktown

Man, thinking about this game takes me back.

Being in college, going to events and tourneys on weekends, meeting new people, making friends and playing all night on sleepovers, travelling to big tournaments throughout the country, I feel like I lived it all with Smash 4. I may have been seen as the salty loser by most people back then, but the truth is I was a much happier person then than I am now. This game gave me a real sense of community like I'd never had before or since - though it's weird to say that as a positive in hindsight, because time proved much of that community to be deeply rotten, even some people I used to consider friends. Still, the memories this game gave me are forever. I'll never live anything like that ever again, so I'll continue to cherish those memories.

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Guessed by @drbunnig

The latest (hopefully not last) Metroid Prime game to give us a proper expansive interconnected world to get lost in. And what a world it gave us. Aether was a dense maze I still struggle to find my way around even having played this several times, but it is certainly the most well put together world in Metroid Prime history. You get a clear sense of the geography these areas are in, because their connections feel tangible and visible, and it's amazing seeing the very alien architecture of the Luminoth as you uncover more and more of their lore.

I feel like Echoes lacks a little punch in areas the other Prime games excel at, and I have a couple major gripes with it (mainly how the Dark World was incorporated), but in terms of immersing you deeply into an isolating alien planet, no game in the series comes close - and that may even include the 2D games.

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Guessed by @UnderwaterFunktown

Honestly, I wish I could rank this game higher. Persona 3, the original, was a potential masterpiece severely hindered by the game it was attached to, what with it being too much of a grind-fest, a poorly paced story where you have to waste 29 in-game days between major events, and many other issues. Then, Reload came out and... Well, certainly the gameplay became more enjoyable, but too easy at times (especially the ending), the visuals got a big upgrade in some areas but then other areas look like an upscaled PS2 game, the music was remade by different people and sounds weird, and we got all-new anime cutscenes at the expense of many of the original animations being cut in favour of in-engine cutscenes.

Reload is certainly the best way to experience Persona 3 overall, but it still compromises so much of the original experience, it ultimately doesn't improve upon it as much as I wish. Nonetheless, I adore this game.

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Unguessed

The perenially unguessed game on this list takes its biggest drop yet, falling outside of the Top 30 for the first time since its introduction to this ranking in 2017 - though back then, I hadn't yet played through the whole thing. I wouldn't say this drop happened for any particular reason other than, it's just been a while since I played this, and games without strong storylines tend to fade in my head over time. This is still an amazing game, but hey, this is a list of amazing games after all. Thumper may not be as high here as it used to be, but it will continue to be here for a long time.

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Guessed by @UnderwaterFunktown

Arguably the best Zelda game ever, made in less than 2 years with a bunch of reused assets from Ocarina of Time... yet, while I'll always recognize how amazing Majora's Mask is as a videogame and as an experience, it was never one that resonated that much with me on a personal level. I do have a preference for more epic Zelda games rather than the weird ones, but in its darkness, weirdness, and creepiness, Majora's Mask carved out a space for itself within this franchise and it seems like no game is ever joining it there. So, it'll always be the greatest game of its kind.

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