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Leynos said:

I couldn't give less of a fuck about Pokémon or Palworld. I never played either and never will, but it's pretty hilarious how mad Phenom is over a patent news story.

Mad about the patent news or the trolls using it to troll? Be careful of how you answer, you might reveal yourself.



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Phenomajp13 said:

The funny thing about trolls on the internet is that they think they are so smart. They literally just stand behind anything that helps them in their pursuit to troll anything they don't like. The enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality ie Pokemon (something they don't like) is suing Palworld, so I have pose as a Palworld fan to hide my trolling. Pokemon fans don't even hate Palworld because it's a monster catching ip similar to Pokemon but fills its own niche. I personally played it after watching tons of Pokémon Tubers stream it. It went viral with the help of Pokemon fans but for some reason trolls try to pit Pokemon fans and Palworld fans against each other.

Ark with Pokemon was a brilliant idea because Pokemon are elemental monsters while dinosaurs are not. It gives Pals a specific role. Palworld went wrong when they put so much effort into making a Pokemon ripoff instead of just making a good game. They went out of their way to copy Pokemon just to go viral instead of focusing on what makes sense for the type of game they were making. Look at the towers for example like why try to copy gyms just to do it when it hardly fits the game? Paltamers don't make much sense to only be in the towers, they should be across the world because it's a world full of pals. The world feels so empty not just because of the lack of cities but also because Paltamers seem to be rare. The whole throwing Palspheres to catch Pals and throwing them to call them out didn't have to exist. Plenty of other monster catching ip did something different to be different but ofcourse copying Pokemon to go viral was more important than anything else in thqqe game. We were literally falling through the map into a massive ocean or couldn't even complete a raid without the game crashing. The catching mechanic was top notch though lol. Spent plenty of time on that.

Trolls spend more time taking shots at Pokemon than actually trying to help improve Palworld. That's because they aren't fans but instead trolls. You can't even have a conversation about Palworld without Pokemon being brought up on the internet. 

Nintendo/Pokemon suing is hardly surprising. You went out of your way to copy me just to go viral. You went viral ie gained alot of attention but ofcourse thar only makes you a bigger target after flying to close to the sun (Pokemon) and now billion dollar corporations are going to do what billion dollar corporations do best and that's seek compensation. Now I'm probably never going to see Palworld on Switch 2, that hurts them both because that was money to be made for both of them.

i honestly think you need to take a step back. walk outside get some air. Just get over it...



zero129 said:
Phenomajp13 said:

The funny thing about trolls on the internet is that they think they are so smart. They literally just stand behind anything that helps them in their pursuit to troll anything they don't like. The enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality ie Pokemon (something they don't like) is suing Palworld, so I have pose as a Palworld fan to hide my trolling. Pokemon fans don't even hate Palworld because it's a monster catching ip similar to Pokemon but fills its own niche. I personally played it after watching tons of Pokémon Tubers stream it. It went viral with the help of Pokemon fans but for some reason trolls try to pit Pokemon fans and Palworld fans against each other.

Ark with Pokemon was a brilliant idea because Pokemon are elemental monsters while dinosaurs are not. It gives Pals a specific role. Palworld went wrong when they put so much effort into making a Pokemon ripoff instead of just making a good game. They went out of their way to copy Pokemon just to go viral instead of focusing on what makes sense for the type of game they were making. Look at the towers for example like why try to copy gyms just to do it when it hardly fits the game? Paltamers don't make much sense to only be in the towers, they should be across the world because it's a world full of pals. The world feels so empty not just because of the lack of cities but also because Paltamers seem to be rare. The whole throwing Palspheres to catch Pals and throwing them to call them out didn't have to exist. Plenty of other monster catching ip did something different to be different but ofcourse copying Pokemon to go viral was more important than anything else in thqqe game. We were literally falling through the map into a massive ocean or couldn't even complete a raid without the game crashing. The catching mechanic was top notch though lol. Spent plenty of time on that.

Trolls spend more time taking shots at Pokemon than actually trying to help improve Palworld. That's because they aren't fans but instead trolls. You can't even have a conversation about Palworld without Pokemon being brought up on the internet. 

Nintendo/Pokemon suing is hardly surprising. You went out of your way to copy me just to go viral. You went viral ie gained alot of attention but ofcourse thar only makes you a bigger target after flying to close to the sun (Pokemon) and now billion dollar corporations are going to do what billion dollar corporations do best and that's seek compensation. Now I'm probably never going to see Palworld on Switch 2, that hurts them both because that was money to be made for both of them.

i honestly think you need to take a step back. walk outside get some air. Just get over it...

What is the point of your post? I love how people like you get triggered at anyone expressing an opinion and then contribute nothing to the conversation. What exactly is wrong with my post that bothered you so much to need to give me advice? It's related to this thread because it's about Palworld and Pokemon. I then included an observation of my own. Why does this bother you? I played both games and noticed how individuals go out of their way to spread hate. You could have ignored my post but instead you were so triggered you felt the need to respond to it without anything actually worth posting. 

Last edited by Phenomajp13 - on 02 November 2025

Good, so stupid this was attempted.



Phenomajp13 said:
zero129 said:

i honestly think you need to take a step back. walk outside get some air. Just get over it...

What is the point of your post? I love how people like you get triggered at anyone expressing an opinion and then contribute nothing to the conversation. What exactly is wrong with my post that bothered you so much to need to give me advice? It's related to this thread because it's about Palworld and Pokemon. I then included an observation of my own. Why does this bother you? I played both games and noticed how individuals go out of their way to spread hate. You could have ignored my post but instead you were so triggered you felt the need to respond to it without anything actually worth posting. 

I felt telling you to go take a breath of fresh air was worth it?,



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zero129 said:
Phenomajp13 said:

What is the point of your post? I love how people like you get triggered at anyone expressing an opinion and then contribute nothing to the conversation. What exactly is wrong with my post that bothered you so much to need to give me advice? It's related to this thread because it's about Palworld and Pokemon. I then included an observation of my own. Why does this bother you? I played both games and noticed how individuals go out of their way to spread hate. You could have ignored my post but instead you were so triggered you felt the need to respond to it without anything actually worth posting. 

I felt telling you to go take a breath of fresh air was worth it?,

But why assume I haven't taken a breath of fresh air? Does my post make you feel I'm worked up or something? It was only an observation. Are you offended at my observation? 



Phenomajp13 said:
KLXVER said:

Palworld Tops 32 Million Players

Yes by being the Pokemon with guns game. They should thank Pokemon for carrying them so far. The ride is over though and it's all down hill from here.

Why would the ride be over?  Pokemon managed to make a fortune off of mediocre games that repeat a basic formula to infinity, why can't Palworld do the same with a better product in markets that Nintendo refuses to serve?  Seems like the best outcome for consumers.



pokoko said:
Phenomajp13 said:

Yes by being the Pokemon with guns game. They should thank Pokemon for carrying them so far. The ride is over though and it's all down hill from here.

Why would the ride be over?  Pokemon managed to make a fortune off of mediocre games that repeat a basic formula to infinity, why can't Palworld do the same with a better product in markets that Nintendo refuses to serve?  Seems like the best outcome for consumers.

Because I don't expect Palworld 2 or Palfarm to keep up the success considering its viral time is over now and Palworld has done nothing but decline since from the metrics I have seen. It going to PS didn't light the charts on fire and steam player count is considerably lower but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

On top of all of that, it's war with Pokemon will likely keep it off of Nintendo's platforms. Making it harder for Pokemon fans to consume Palworld products. Thanks to Palworld showing the world is hungry for more monster collecting games, a ton of competition is entering the fray like Animo along with other Ark like games including Ark 2. Those products will compete with Palworld directly on the same platforms while Pokemon remains the exclusive monster collecting juggernaut with Nintendo's audience borderline all to themselves and still being considered the "orginal" ie the one everyone is compared too. You don't have to be the true original if the world only recognizes you (Pokémon) as THE monster collecting game.

Last edited by Phenomajp13 - on 03 November 2025

Gotta admit, I enjoy when the high and mighty collect some Ls.



Good!

Software patents are stupid, not only when Nintendo does it. In gaming we have things like small games in the loading screen, a 3D arrow pointing you to your goal or similar stuff. This is ridiculous. Nintendos patents weren't even there, they extended an existing patent with new claims to cover Palworld after it existed.

Nintendo needs to lose it. Not because I'm a Nintendo hater (on the contrary actually), but because patents stifle innovation. I want Nintendo to thrive, but I want it by them producing great games with interesting ideas, not by suppressing ideas with patents. And we already see the effects. Pokemon Pokopia wouldn't exist without Palworld and it is as a game closer to Palworld than anything Pokemon game before in all of Pokemons existance. That alone should show you that Palworld is not a ripoff, but brought something new to the table. Gamefreak needs some kicks to the bottom, because they are complacent and not at all are realizing the full potential of what Pokemon as an IP could be able to do. Pokopia already shows that with competition like Palworld showing the way Pokemon can achieve so much more. This competition is actually good for all fans of Pokemon. Because there will be more good games with interesting ideas. Suffocating the competition will only keep Gamefreak complacent.

TheRealSamusAran said:

And I don't support the lawsuit btw, even though Pocket Pair did copy a bunch of Pokémon designs.

Phenomajp13 said:

They went out of their way to copy Pokemon just to go viral instead of focusing on what makes sense for the type of game they were making.

Even Nintendo's lawyers don't think so. Otherwise they would sue in a much, much easier copyright lawsuit. They only don't do that, because they can't. Similarities, especially on common designs like animals or egyptian gods, aren't good enough. Similarities happen all the time, intentional or not. Outright copies are something different.

Last edited by Mnementh - on 04 November 2025

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