Highly discussable I vastly prefer the morals and society of Northwestern Europe over that of the US and Iran or Saudi Arabia. India also has a doubtful moral system that is pretty much tied to it's religious roots.

Do you know how many atheists have been serial/mass murderers throughout the 19th-21st century? The numbers are staggering. Yet, I doubt you would claim it was fair for people of faith to go out and attack every atheist they see because of this. And with good reason: it's not fair. So too, is it unfair to do the same to people of faith when one of theirs looses their mind and blows up an abortion clinic. They clearly were sick in the head and weren't practicing what they preach.

People just need to leave each other alone. Both sides.

What is this thread? Godless generations is how ww3 will probablly start.

Thanks for setting up this topic. Here’s my position: it’s not a matter of faith vs. science. It’s a matter of faith vs. faith. Atheism is a faith (or religion) in the same way Christianity is. If you think about religion as a “worldview” that seeks to explain life’s key questions (where did we come from?, what is our purpose on earth?, what happens when we die?), then atheism fits the bill. It’s the opposite of theism (in my case, evangelical Christianity).

Science is not a religion or worldview - it’s just a tool. And both atheists and theists use that tool, along with other tools (such as logic, probability, mathematics & common sense, among others), to seek answers to life’s questions. Last time I checked, neither the atheist nor the theist was alive when the universe began. And neither the atheist nor the theist was alive when the first life began. So we both have “faith” that our worldview is correct. The difference is - I believe the Christian worldview represents a “reasonable” faith. The atheist worldview represents an “unreasonable” faith.

There are lots of supporting arguments I could use. But I will focus on one: there is absolutely NO way, in my opinion, that the incredible complexity of the human body could have come about on its own. Science teaches us how astonishingly complex the human body is, even at the cellular level. There are as many as 50 trillion cells in the human body. And each cell contains as many as 100 trillion atoms. And they work together with incredible precision, like a miniature city. And DNA is this amazing atomic language. There is absolutely no way that could have come about on its own through time & chance, Please - a simple binder clip couldn’t even create itself in a billion years! How much less a body? The human body begs for a brilliant, genius, all-powerful Creator. And atheists like Richard Dawkins know this. That’s why they come up with silly, desperate ideas like “aliens seeded the planet.” They’re just replacing “God” with “aliens,” but who created the aliens?

I’m sorry, but atheism is a desperate religion that makes no sense. Atheists accuse Christians of being anti-science, but atheists are the ones who are anti-science. Science brings me, as a Christian, closer to God, because I can see how amazing He is? Atheists have to throw their brains in the trash can and ignore the obvious “fingerprint” of God in His creation of human life, other forms of life, the universe, and all of its amazing properties that we have discovered & have yet to discover!

Truth be told, all of the atheists I have ever met have not really taken the time to think about whether what they believe is actually true & makes sense. Rather, they quickly adopt it, because they love the fact that they can live their life with moral impunity, and they use it as a “coping mechanism,” so they don’t have to worry about a divine judgment in the afterlife (even though it will happen, & they will be condemned to hell for all of eternity). They can sleep with whomever they want. They can put whatever chemicals they want into their body. And they can have all of the fun they want. It”s basically “sex, drugs, and rock & roll” with no one to tell them “no.” They make themselves the “lord of their life.”

There are really only two religions out there - you either make Jesus Christ your Lord & Savior, or you make yourself your lord & savior. That’s it. Atheists have made their choice, and I pray for them, because I truly care about them & love them. And God loves them, too. “The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9). And “Jesus is the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone. Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:11-12).

I'm afraid you're quite mistaken. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Definition of Religion:

1. The belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers, regarded as creating and governing the universe.
   "respect for religion."
2. A particular variety of such belief, especially when organized into a system of doctrine and practice.
   "the world's many religions."
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

Atheism isn't any of these. In fact, atheism precludes belief in religion, leaving adherence to religion as nothing more than social obligation.

The wars the last 4 and a half decades have all been fought exclusively by predominantly religious countries, often for religious or nationalistic differences. Only one of the predominantly irreligious countries listed in this thread (China, Japan, Sweden, Czech Republic, Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Belgium, Estonia, and Denmark) have engaged in any wars of aggression since World War 2 - that country being China which has not been at war since the Vietnam War in the 1970s.

Meanwhile, the countries most at risk for starting World War 3 are those in the Middle East, Russia, and the US. All of whom have governments elected or enforced by the religious extremist right.

And, I guess you forgot:

Murder of any sort has nothing to do with atheism.

On the other hand, attacking abortion clinics are doing so precisely because they are motivated by the anti-abortion values of their religion. They are in fact practicing what they preach - many of whom believe that women who have abortions should be killed:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/sc-republicans-propose-bill-subject-women-abortions-death-penalty-rcna75060

While I agree that Jesus's teachings are for peace and love, Jesus's teachings are not consistent with right-wing Christian values.

Christianity ≠ following the teachings of Jesus

Christianity = worship of Jesus & often ignoring or cherry-picking the teachings.

Atheism is -not- a religion.

Atheism is the disbelief/rejection in the existence of God or Gods as the burden of proof has not been met.
That applies equally to all 18,000 God's in human history and the thousands of religions and/or denominations.

The differences between Agnostic and Atheist is that Atheism is a lack/rejection of belief in a God due to lack of evidence.
(And a lack of evidence is often evidence itself. - Case in point: Toxicology screenings. )

Agnostics hold the position that it's "possible" but also impossible to know for sure that a God exists.

You can also be an Agnostic Atheist... I.E. You would not believe in God but also would not claim to know with certainty that God does not exist.

Difference between Atheism and Theism is that Atheism isn't an organized collective.

Theists tend to be organized and institutionalized and do things on a much larger scale... Which is why morally religion tends to have the largest negative impacts on society.

Religion is responsible for the deaths of millions/billions and even attempts at genocide. (Case in point with today with the entire Iran vs Israel debacle which is Islam vs Judaism.)

You only need to read the middle-eastern abrahamic texts that form the basis of Judaism (Torah), Christianity (Bible), Islam (Quran) to see it's not a peaceful and morally right religious basis, it's full of slavery ownership, stoning of children, abuse, damnation, bigotry, judgement, war and more.

Atheism has none of this influence.
If an Atheist is engaging in murder, it's not because their religion told them so, it's because they were mentally troubled... And THAT is the difference here. (Although anyone using a religious book to justify their morally corrupt actions I would argue are also mentally troubled.)

No. It literally is all about faith vs science.

Faith by it's very definition is blind belief without evidence.

Atheism is a rejection because there is no evidence.

Atheism is not trying to explain life or anything to that degree, it's literally a rejection of the God claim, that's it.

Theists reject science and the scientific method.

See: Flat Earth.
See: God.
See: Evolution.

All these things conflict with science and evidence.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

Abiogensis is the process in which life arose from non-living matter, there is evidence and observation for this.
Evolution is the process in which change in characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.
Natural selection is the process in which organisms adapt to their environment and augments Evolution.
DNA evolved from RNA as the genetic information exceeded RNA's capacity to store and transfer that information.
RNA can store genetic information and catalyze chemical reactions, which is why it's the precursor to DNA.

To discard the centuries of evidence, understanding and observation of these processes and just say "God did it" without evidence, is silly and nonsensical.

There is the same amount of evidence for Aliens as there is for your particular God... That is zero, zilch, nada.

Richard Dawkins doesn't assert that Aliens exist.

It's not a religion. It's not organized. It's not faith based. It's not a belief.

Everyone who has ever lived, currently lives... And will be alive in the future... Was born Atheist. You included.

Because Atheists support science, evidence and the forward of human knowledge... Have their brains in the bin?

Yet... Someone who claims "God did it" without evidence are somehow correct in their baseless assertions? What kind of illogical reasoning is that?

You keep making assertions about Atheists, I am one. And I can assure you... You are wrong.
1) I have morals. I am a firefighter and save lives. - No religion required.
2) I don't put "whatever chemicals I want" into my body, I prioritise my health. - No religion required.
3) I don't "have all the fun I want" work and life comes first. - No religion required.
4) I don't engage in drugs, sex, rock and roll. - No religion required.
5) I don't make myself the "lord of my life".

Remember... Everyone is born Atheist, it's only later in life that people like yourself that they get indoctrinated into their cult of choice... And then go on a baseless tirade against those who believe differently which you have demonstrably demonstrated rather empirically in this thread.

Actually there are over 10,000 distinct religions in the world.

Even with your particular cult, there is over 5,000 denominations... That's right, 5,000+ distinct christian groups who don't even agree about their own religion.
And you expect Atheists to believe you?

If your God is going to punish anyone, then your God is not worthy of worship.
I have dedicated my life to saving and helping others, if that means I go to your religions unproven and hypothetical "Hell" - Then your God is an immoral monster.

Remember, the Bible is the claim, not evidence.

You don't need religion to have morality.

I choose not to hurt people or steal because it's unethical, I don't need a god or a holy book to stop me harming others.

Out of curiosity, how do you square this sentiment with the fact that the people that professionally use Science and know it the most intimately (I'd argue) are more atheist than the general public? Seems like most people that study Science come to a different conclusion. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/

As an atheist and scientist I find your "it's just so complex it needs God" argument to be unconvincing. Has nothing to do with my desire for "sex, drugs, and rock and roll".